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Its that time of year ago when Church of God members do their spring cleaning while searching toy boxes, clothes pockets, for cookies in the cracks of the couch, or scrubbing the tile flooring its toothbrushes to get out all that "sin." Women in the church are literally exhausted having to clean the house from top to bottom. It was always great fun for the minister to stick his hand in his suit pocket and find a cookie.
The most vital spiritual lesson of the Passover and spring holy days is the incredible destructiveness of sin. Human sin brought about the death of Jesus Christ. And human sin will cause our eternal death unless we repent and seek God’s righteousness (Romans 6:23). The great tragedy is that, all too often, serious sin can be hidden from our view.
But there is a positive side to all this knowledge. It is found in the Days of Unleavened Bread. God gave us the spring holy days to teach us that we can find sin, and with His help, put it out of our lives. God uses the physical lesson of leaven to help us adults understand how sin works. We need to show our children how sin works by getting them involved in cleaning for the Days of Unleavened Bread. Finding leaven is a tailor-made activity for our young people. Each child, even toddlers, should have some job or activity related to finding leaven. In our family, we have always tried to assign each child a particular area of the house. When our children were toddlers, we directed them to hunt for leaven in their toy box. Yes, we made them pull each toy out. It was always great fun.
We didn’t always necessarily find leaven. But our toddlers felt part of all the activity.
As you teach your child to look for leaven, look with them. Talk with your child about sin and how it is like crumbs—it is everywhere! Be sure to plan ahead so you can spend time with your children.
All of this effort is put forth for days ahead of Passover. The Church of God version of Passover is about the only time of year that many members ever hear
The Pasadena congregations had a wonderful tradition of making sure when they killed him on the stage that it was amplified through loudspeakers so that every person sitting in the room knew they were guilty of crucify
What the point in deleavening a home, office, toy box or the car when the rest of the year you treat church members like dirt and split up families? Whats the point in crucifying
Whats the point in Dennis Leap writing an article like this when he treats members so horribly?
Jesus isn't impressed.
As some Church of God members scurry about cleaning our the leavening in the homes, cars, toy boxes and businesses, those fun folk at the Flurry compound in Edmond Oklahoma have some further words of wisdom for you.
While some few in the church actually focus upon
The Philadelphia Church of God takes it a step further. During this time of year your focus should be upon Gerald Flurry, God's channel for redemption.
We learn so much from obeying the biblical command to deleaven our homes, cars, offices and personal spaces (Exodus 13:6-10). Physical deleavening certainly helps us in looking at our own lives spiritually—searching out every corner, nook and cranny in order to truly remove any spiritual dirt, filth or sin.
This process harkens back to a wonderful example of restoration found in 2 Chronicles: “Hezekiah began to reign when he was five and twenty years old, and he reigned nine and twenty years in Jerusalem. And his mother’s name was Abijah, the daughter of Zechariah. And he did that which was right in the sight of the, according to all that David his father had done. He in the first year of his reign, in the first month, L ” (2 Chronicles 29:1-3).
The richly ornate and costlyGod had built by King Solomon in Jerusalem had fallen into disuse and disrepair. We witnessed the same tragedy in recent times: After Herbert W. Armstrong’s death, perversion of God’s truth began. The Church had become a church within a church—the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 3:9). God then used one man to begin restoring the truth and the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3).
Malachi’s Message was given to God’s Church. The opening sentence of the preface of that book reads, “This is a story about God’s Church gone off track, and what God did to correct the tragedy.”-------
Just as the Levites anciently began the task of cleansing, repairing and restoring, so our current commission to “raise up the ruins” must begin with a cleansing of the spiritual temple. The Philadelphia Church of God started small, but it has grown large and raised up the ruins of Mr. Armstrong’s work.One would assume that PCG staff would weave
King Hezekiah wrote letters to those who had drifted from God. He asked them to turn again to God (2 Chronicles 30:6). But, like the Laodiceans today, not everyone was responsive (although ancient Israel did not have God’s Holy Spirit).
For those who responded, this was a great cleansing and it brought great joy. Read verses 13-27. Notice verse 21 in particular: “And the children of Israel that were present at Jerusalem kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with great gladness: and the Levites and the priests praised the Lday by day, with loud instruments unto the L .” Of the word singing, Moffat says, “sang praise to the Eternal day by day with all their might.” This all is happening during the feast of Unleavened Bread.
Look at verse 26 now: “So there was great joy in Jerusalem: for since the time of Solomon the son of David king of Israel there was not the like in Jerusalem.” When we get back to God’s ways, what is produced is “.” Joy and rejoicing—the Israelites held the Feast with great delight. This must be our goal every day—to rejoice with great delight, especially during the Days of Unleavened Bread.
When the king commanded the people to get back to tithing, they responded beautifully. “And thus did Hezekiah throughout all Judah, and wrought that which was good and right and truth before thehis God. And in every work that he began in the service of the house of God, and in the law, and in the commandments, to seek his God, he did it with all his heart, and prospered” (2 Chronicles 31:20-21).
God truly will bless His Church as we seek to truly obey Him in every way and cleanse our personal temple—getting rid of any filth or uncleanness in every area.Its typical for a Church of God to claim that its members are filled with filth and uncleanness in every area of their lives. When you like under the law that is what is expected. Vile filthy sinners that have so pissed off God that there is scant hope for making into the kingdom, unless of course you re one of the privileged elite.
At this time of year the focus need to be entirely upon the Philadelphia Church of God and its "witness" to the world. Otherwise you temple is NOT clean. Filthy heathen Laodiceans!
We must ensure that we truly are up to our task of cleansing ourselves and responding to God—His government, His law and His love. We must be dedicated to the spiritual commission before us—prophesying again (Revelation 10:11). The last hour is closing in—time is of the essence to finish this Work, but also for each of us to be ready to marry the Son of God!
Salvation is only accessible through worshipping the government of the PCG. Salvation only rests upon believing and reading the words of God's only true prophet and of his son Stevie. Salvation will come when your full financial resources are given over to the church. At that time
Why is it that Armstrongism always has to have a list of things that a person must do in order to please God? Each decade that the Church of God survives and more ministers start personality cults, that list grows and grows.
Now we have Dennis Leap who has laid down his law on the Night to be Much Observed; one of Armstrong's made up church observances.
For us to properly keep the Days of Unleavened Bread, it’s necessary that we come to properly understand and observe what the Bible calls the Night to Be Much Observed.
God commands that the Church keep the Passover ceremony at night (1 Corinthians 11:23). Mr Armstrong taught the Church that the Passover is the most solemn night of the entire Holy Day season. It is the night that God’s truly converted people convene to remember Jesus Christ’s death.
God also requires that His truly converted people keep another separate night immediately following the Passover. This second night is also of great importance to all of God’s people. Keeping the Passover alone is not enough! We must observe this second, , to properly keep the Days of Unleavened Bread!A persons salvation is NOT at risk for not doing the NTOBMO or any of the other requirements that Armstrongists place significance upon.
Dennis Leap's other requirements are:
The Night to be Much Observed is actually the beginning of the first Holy Day. We should dress in our sabbath best for this occasion. Men should wear coats and ties and ladies should wear nice dresses. Our children should dress in clothing that they would normally wear to Sabbath services.
If your Night to be Much Observed gathering must take place at a restaurant, be sure it is in a private room, away from the public. Loud music, interruptions and people smoking will greatly detract from your evening.
Mr. Armstrong always set us the example of using nice dishes, tablecloths, and nice tableware for special occasions. This is the night to do this. Candles and fresh cut flowers will also help make this occasion more special. A wonderful atmosphere goes a long way in making an occasion such as this a very memorable one.He sure did set the example. His table setting was worth well over $300,000.00! What church member could ever emulate that! His food costs, including wine for a table of 8 guests, was over $1,500.00. So much for the night that symbolizes the quick exodus of the Israelites out of Egypt! As if any of them would be eating prime rib and drinking Rothschild wines.
This is a night for fine foods. Our meals should be balanced and not contain a lot of rich foods. Too many rich foods can make people ill and sluggish. Remember that the next day there will be double services. We need to be sure we are alert for the spiritual food to come at services.
Drinking on the Night to be Much Observed should be done with great care. Alcohol can either add or detract from our fellowship. God intended for man to develop alcoholic beverages for our benefit. “And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man’s heart” (Psalm 104:15). Using alcohol in moderation will help make us merry on this night. A host should never force alcohol on anyone. But in the same vein, a host should never allow someone to over drink.Its always interesting to see COG ministers lay down the law for alcohol consumption for the membership, when so many of them are alcoholics.
Leap ends with this:
God planned the sacrifice of His own Son so we could share eternal life with Him; He provided for us a great Passover. He also provided a second night for us to truly celebrate that Passover. Because of what God did for us, we owe it to Him to celebrate the Night to be Much Observed. So let us all do everything we can to make this year’s Night to be Much Observed the best celebration ever!Thats one big cosmic joke played on humankind, to be created as GOOD though not good enough. Deliberately created to be vile sinners so that God can kill himself. Thats the logic that comes across.
Leave it to an arrogant and narcissistic biblically uneducated Church of God leader to claim the Jews have absolutely no right to call their Seder the Passover. Only the true Church of God run by Bob Elijah Elisha Amos thief-Doubly Blessed, has that right.
Jewish Seder Should not be Called Passover and Early Christians kept the 14th not 15th as Passover
Tonight after sunset is the 15th of Nisan. Most Jews will claim to celebrate the Passover tonight, but Passover was actually last night
Only the enlightened in Armstrongism have the correct day and name. Its the never ending story of we have the truth and you dumb shmcuk's don't.
This is going to be a bitter pill for Bob Elijah Elisha Amos Thiel to swallow. The comes from a Church of God member who freely admits there is idolatry in the Church of God. Even worse this comes fro the guy who is exposing Bob Elijah Elisha Amos Thiel as a false prophet and accuser of the brethren.
John D, on the Church of God Perspective writes:
Do people in the Church covet? Yes. Do people in the Church shade the truth? Yes. Do people in the Church steal? You know that some do, even if it is only small amounts. Judas, who was in the presence of Jesus Christ, still stole. So, it should not be surprising that people can call themselves Christian and still be involved in idolatry.
Having said that, obviously the warnings are there and there so often not only because idolatry is possible but probable. Look around, and some blatantly worship a dead man. Some worship their organization or perhaps the man running it (often by introducing the idolatry as a flagrant elevation of the dead man and then shifting to themselves). Some people have fallen in love with their own pet doctrine and left the Church because their pet doctrine was more important than keeping the commandment to assemble together. Some have made an idol out of government. Some border on worshiping the host of heaven with their fanatical and distorted view of the calendar. Idolatry in the Church of God is not only possible, but it is!
How true are his words! This is been going on for generations. Just look at the various Church of God leaders we have today. Idolatry regions supreme. Worship of HWA and of themselves. Worship of doctrines and law instead of grace and
Still think idolatry cannot exist in the Church? Christ Himself said it would be there at various times down through the ages. Remember that He admonishes each and every one of the Seven Churches of Revelation to listen to what He says to the “churches“, plural. The messages were targeted to each and yet meant for all.What message does Bob Elijah Elisha Amos Thiel preach that emulates
Instead, most treat the messages as a way of picking out the one we like the best, applying it to ourselves and then hit everyone else over the head with the others. It is so backwards that it is a doctrine of Satan. Ironically, it in itself is a form of idolatry in the Church of God, taking notions like “us vs them”, “Laodicean vs Philadelphian”, church “eras” and such way out of proportion and making them more important that the actual messages Christ was delivering to all the churches down through all of time up until His return.
Rod Meredith has a Passover message up that makes the following statement:
Many of us ministers have participated in healing the sick and in casting out demons. But these events are not experienced nearly as often as they should be!
Apparently LCG is having a huge demon possession problem, unlike other Church of God's who never make this boast.
Perhaps Rod Meredith and other leaders of the LCG need to start looking inward at their attitudes and beliefs and realize that THEY are the "demons" that are causing problems. How many more families need to be ripped apart? How many more need to die spiritually because of godless teachings? that's not the concern of Meredith and the ministry though. As usual its the membership's fault. Church members over the last 80 some years have never been able to do anything right.
Brethren, many scriptures indicate that God’s people—at the end of this age—will be greatly lacking in faith. We need to realize that this has affected all of us! And God Almighty generally does not heal nearly as often unless there is an “atmosphere of faith”! Please remember that even Jesus Christ Himself—when He came back to His own hometown and relatives, “could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them” (Mark 6:5). It was obviously not because He lacked faith, but “He marveled because of their unbelief” (v. 6)!Meredith now wants to start a "campaign" to bring supernatural healing and deliverance into the Living Church of God. It's not going to happen. That's a fact.
So, we must do everything in our power to restore this aspect of apostolic Christianity. We must begin, collectively, to cry out to God to restore the depth of understanding and the depth of faith regarding healing and God’s divine intervention in other ways that the original apostles had. We must pray about this. We must fast about this. We must go on a “campaign,” dear brethren, so that God will begin to supernaturally heal more of our friends and loved ones in God’s Church at this time of the end! We know that terrible disease epidemics are coming. Because of this, it is even more imperative than ever that God’s people learn to have genuine faith that God can heal us if we turn to Him with all our hearts!Then we find out the real purpose for this dramatic focus upon healing. Meredith expects to be healed and to continue living so that he personally can lead the church to Petra where they will dwell in eternal bliss for 3 1/2 years along side Theil, Pack, Flurry, and Kubik.
As an aside, let me remind you that the Church has always taught that God does not heal people in every case in this life—and that He does allow people to die at some point. God heals in His way and in His time. So, although we were very hurt to experience the deaths of Messrs. Dibar Apartian, David Burson, Glen Gilchrist, Fitzroy Greeman, Randy Gregory, Bob League, Carl McNair, John Ogwyn, Carl Ponder, Lynn Torrance, Keith Walden and others in recent years, we realize that these men had proven themselves as faithful servants of Jesus Christ. Some died well into their 60s or 70s, and several were older than I am today. In my case, brethren, I want all of you to know and understand that God does not “have” to heal me, although I certainly hope that He will. For God has already given me nearly 86 wonderful years of life, with a beautiful first wife and a beautiful second wife, six wonderful children, ten grandchildren, four great-grandchildren, trips around the world and many, many other blessings and opportunities. I have already lived about 15 years longer than King David of Israel did 3,000 years ago when God allowed him to die “old and full of days.” I will certainly deeply appreciate your prayers that God will grant me several more years to help finish the Work! This is my passion and my desire. But you must not be shocked, turned aside or in any way lose heart if God allows an 85-year-old man to die. Your faith must always be in God’s Word, and in what God says He will do. Unless there are special reasons, God does often heal us in this lifetime—and many of us have experienced that over and over again. But we do need to go all out in a genuine crusade—as a Church—to ask God for increased faith and zeal so that our Father in heaven will begin to grant us the gifts of the Holy Spirit and begin to pour out these gifts—including divine healing—much more than ever, as we cooperate with Christ in creating an “atmosphere of faith” within the Church of God.Like I said above, none of the things he desires will happen because of the simple fact the church has NEVER operated with
In Jesus’ name, I ask all of you to join me in urgently crying out to our Father in heaven to restore this living faith into His Church! Please ask God to teach us every lesson, show us everything we need to change and move us, collectively, to draw closer to Him so that He will then be able to bless us, empower us and use us to finish the Work of God with the kind of zeal the original apostles had—and also be blessed with the “accompanying” signs!After 80 some years Meredith still doesn't get it and has never been able to get it across to his followers, if he did he would not make the remarks he did above. True healing of LCG members will begin the moment they walk out the door of the church and learn to fly.
In the latest issue of Compass Check, a rag dedicated to "helping" the youth of UCG turn their "spiritual compass" towards God, there is an article by Len Martin that was supposed to have been written as words of comfort for those UCG kids being teased at school about their religion.
The question was asked: What should I do if kids make fun of me because of my religion?
Martin writes the following:
Any time someone makes fun of our beliefs or of us, we are hurt inside. Romans 13:10 says love does no harm to its neighbor, so those who are striving to live as God asks them need to watch their words carefully so as to not hurt others.Martin immediately launch into the old COG standby, it's "the true believers vs the unwashed masses of heathen humanity." Us vs them. Good vs evil. Good only exists in the UCG and evil is everyone outside it. Its no wonder UCG kids have a hard time making friends in school when this is drilled into their brains. Those "friends" are really on there to "revile and persecute" them. So as soon as some one makes a catty remark they are taught to become martyrs for the truth.
However, not everyone lives that way of life. Jesus Christ realized most humans would not follow God’s instruction and would indeed ridicule true followers of God. In fact, in Matthew 5:10-11, Jesus said, “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.”
Later, in Matthew 10:22, Jesus said, “And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.” He told us that since they treated Him badly, they would also treat us, His followers, badly. We also read in 2 Timothy 3:12, “Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.”
This is one of the hard parts of being a disciple of God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. This is where the “rubber meets the road”. Quite honestly, this is where many people give up, throw in the towel, and turn back to their old life!UCG youth are not going around every day thinking about being disciples for the deities. Heck, the leadership of UCG and their parents aren't even doing that so why would they expect their kids to?
The rubber will truly meet the road the day UCG youth make a decision to leave UCG. That is not the work of Satan or his pesky demons that seem to be haunting so many in the COG's right now.
Never fear though, those that oppressed the UCG member or youth will soon be brought to justice for mistreating them all. Retribution will be swift!
God promises us that if we’ll remain faithful to Him, He will bless us and eventually make those who mistreat us recognize how wrong they were. Notice Revelation 3:9: “Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.”The youth of the UCG are begin tormented because of the beliefs defined by UCG leaders and not by God. Its not the "synagogue of satan" persecuting them. They are suffering because of the teachings of the UCG leadership. A suffering that does not need to happen.
Then to further traumatize the youth, Martin makes it known that those who are not studying to "prove" UCG right are then part of the adulterous and sinful generation. COG kids have always been damned no matter what they did.
Yes, I realize that to know what will happen in the future does not always comfort us in the present, but in Mark 8:38 Jesus tells us not to be ashamed of what we believe: “For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.” When we really know what we believe and why we believe it, explaining our beliefs becomes easier. So we then have an incentive to study so we can clearly explain our beliefs.Martin closes with this.
There are times when we must also be careful not to promote our beliefs to others who may not desire to hear what we have to say. It really is a delicate balance. If someone doesn’t really want to know what we believe and is only trying to stir up trouble for us, perhaps it would be better to simply avoid that person as much as possibleEven he knows UCG beliefs bring embarrassment and ridicule. If they were actually followers of Jesus instead of the law then they would have no need to be ashamed and hide their lights under the nearest booklet byHerbert Armstrong.
The Philadelphia Church of God tries to portray itself as the most successful COG splinter group that has ever existed.
It has wasted millions of dollars in fighting WCG over publishing rights in a court case they lost and ended up paying WCG millions of dollars. It has built multimillion dollar buildings on its compound in order to imitate the Pasadena campus. It built a mini-me concert hall patterned after the Ambassador Auditorium in Pasadena. It has built luxurious homes for Flurry and his relatives. Its now building a dance studio for the use of Flurry's grandkids so they can do Irish dance. It dropped multiple millions in Edstone England for an estate that allows easy access to Ireland and Scotland where Jesus will return to earth establishing his kingdom upon David's throne that will kept safe by Flurry, apparently because Flurry will have immediate access to the Stone of Scone and probably have it in his possession. Money seems to flow freely for pet projects of the Flurry family no matter how ultimately absurd they may be.
Now word is out from PCG members that the church admits it had no idea on how expensive it would be to run its new monument to Herbert Armstrong. Money is now so tight that PCG can't afford to turn on its Swarovski chandeliers for its own members to light the way to bible study or church services. However, if you are the pagan, Sunday worshipping, pork eating public, you get the full lighting extravaganza! Woo Hoo!
The PCG can't even afford to light the balcony or chandeliers on Friday nights for BS! Mr. Turgeon made the announcement that they didn't realize how expensive it would be to run the Auditorium. Duh! Talk about "counting the cost". The only time you'll ever see the chandeliers lit up is for a concert or performance, us lowly tithe payers aren't worthy enough! If you don't believe me, then just drive by HQs on any given Friday night during BS, and you'll just see darkness.
Its about time for the Flurry clan to start demanding that church members sell more property, cash in retirement funds and give everything they have for the final push. How many will be stupid enough to do it?
Kim Meyer, “Ex-World Wide Church of God” member, PCC-S, LICDC-CS, is now a licensed Professional Clinical Counselor and Independently Licensed Substance Abuse counselor and Director of Campus Outpatient and Alcohol and Other Drug Services at Beech Brook in Cleveland Ohio. Her husband Bill, also an ex-member of the WCG, was interviewed too by Steve Hassan while he was in Cleveland as the keynote speaker at the Human Trafficking Symposium co-sponsored by Beech Brook and the Rene Jones Empowerment Center on January 10, 2014. Kim grew up in the WCG from the age of eight, exiting in the mid 90’s after 30 years. She and her husband raised 3 children while in the church, all of whom are no longer affiliated with the WCG.
In her role at Beech Brook, Kim oversees the psychotherapeutic treatment of 70 Residential children with severe mental health disorders including trauma resulting from Human Trafficking experiences. She feels it is vital that Mental Health professionals treating the trafficked adolescent or adult have a working knowledge of destructive influence, coercion and mind control to adequately address the relationship trauma experienced by the trafficked victim. Kim also maintains a private practice working with those who are contemplating leaving their groups, or have left and need someone who can relate to their experience while providing therapeutic support. As a trauma trained clinician she draws on several treatment models which inform her practice including Steve Hassan’s Strategic Interaction Approach and BITE model, as well as the Lifton and Singer models of understanding cultic mind control. She along with Steve, Rachel Thomas and Christine Marie Katas will be participating in a workshop at the International Cultic Studies Conference (ICSA) in July in Washington D.C. looking at the topic of Human Trafficking and the Cult/Mind Control phenomenon. Kim can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Rev. Bill Meyer is a former member of the World Wide Church of God. He joined the group on his own as a sixteen year old in the mid 1960’s. He became a lay pastor who planted and pastored a WCG congregation in Northeast Ohio in the mid 1990’s. When he resigned and quit the WCG after about two years – and explained why to the congregation – it also voted to exit the WCG. To avoid just replicating the old system in new clothes, the congregation joined the mainline Protestant Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). Meyer, a graduate of the Worldwide Church of God’s former Ambassador College, Ohio State University and Ashland Theological Seminary, was later ordained by the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and has partner status in the United Church of Christ. He has pastored Disciple of Christ, UCC and Presbyterian Church USA congregations part time. He works full time as an editor for the Cleveland Plain Dealer and is also an Ohio licensed Professional Counselor. Bill can be reached at email@example.com.
WCG is now known (and has been for sometime) as Grace Communion International (GCI).
Leave it to a non-voting self-appointed Church of God leader to put forth his opinions on the current field of electoral candidates for president. For some reason COG leaders have felt that they are the end-all when it comes to voicing opinions on governmental processes, even though none of them have wherewithal to get off their pampered gluteus maximus and cast a real vote because they are too godly.
Doubly-blessed and self-appointed Bob Elijah Elisha Amos Thiel has this to say about Hillary Clinton:
Hillary Clinton proudly promotes sexual immorality that the Bible condemns–her speaking fees and the Clinton Foundation suggest at least a minimal love of money. She also despises those who hold to biblical marriage and the rights of the unborn. She promotes class warfare and other forms of covetousness. She claims Christianity, but certainly does not practice biblical Christianity.Hillary promotes immorality while the leadership of the Church of God has been filled with pedophiles, serial adulterers, and stalkers. That's apparently ok. Its wrong for a presidential candidate to have personal views while it is ok for COG leaders to be sexual perverts. Talk about a double standard!
As for her taking money for speaking fees, what about COG leaders demanding 30% in tithes and offerings so they can build monuments to their own vain glory. Why is that not an issue? COG ministers destroy families, marriages and lives as they promote class warfare in their own ranks with the privileged elite living in luxury while the membership suffer.
Prophet Thiel and the rest of the COG leaders claim Christianity but do not practice biblical Christianity.
The Doubly-blessed prophet then declares this about Donald Trump:
Donald Trump is an admitted adulterer who said he has never repented before God, and he approves of various behaviours that the Bible condemns–he is also a proud, boasting, lover of money. He despises many. He promotes nationalistic covetousness. He claims Christianity, but certainly does not practice biblical Christianity.Donald Trump admits he is an adulterer. He admits it. Herbert Armstrong was a child molester. His son Garner Ted was a serial adulterer. Neither admitted it.
Other ministers in the Church of God are also adulterers, pedophiles, raging alcoholics, and more. Of which, none of them have ever repented because they STILL are doing it.
They spiritually abuse their members and get by with it while other COG leaders refuse to say anything because "they are our brothers."
Herbert Armstrong, Dave Pack, Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Rod Meredith, Vic Kubik, David Hulme and others, were/are proud, boastful, arrogant and lovers of money. That's not an issue though because "they are our brothers."
Prophet Thiel and the rest of the COG leaders claim Christianity but do not practice biblical Christianity.
Until Bob Elijah Elisha Amos Thiel and the rest of the non-practicing pseudo-christian leadership of the Church of God start voting; their opinions are worthless.
For some reason the Church of God has always had an issue with lice, scabies and other infections spreading through its ranks. Lice, scabies and other infections would spread rapidly though the Ambassador campuses almost every single year.
It seems that phenomenon is carried over into the cult compound in Edmond, Oklahoma where the elite of the Philadelphia Church of God dwell in isolation.
Imagine building a multimillion dollar concert hall using the finest velvets seat coverings, courting the public for subscribers who pay big bucks for sitting in those luxurious seats, all without telling them that earlier in the day at Sabbath services lice infected students and members knowingly were sitting there.
PCG knew about it and even laughed about in on stage.
From a reader:
If only they'd clean Gods House and the John Amos Field house as well physically as they want us to clean. Seems every Fall just before the Feast there's a Lice outbreak! It was so bad one year that the whole orchestra section was infected, but Turgeon assured us that Lice won't get us in the balcony.
There's also the problem of the students having parasites. Most church volunteers won't eat their lunch at the FH because too many of us have gotten so violently sick. Cleanliness is not a concern to the Kruegers though. It's common knowledge that the church makes the students do parasite cleanses because it's such a problem. One young man wouldn't shake our hands one Sabbath because he had ringworm.
If we thought the creepy Jelly videos could not get any worse, wait till you see this one!
As one person on Facebook noted; Jelly goes into orgasmic delight while stirring potatoes for the Sabbath meal.
What were you thinking UCG?
What were you thinking?
Lets not discuss the singing....Oy!
Life on the Edmond cult compound must be boring as hell at times when it comes to dating. Where are they going to go other than the barn yard, the nearby fields or the Armstrong Auditorium for Bible Study. Maybe some celtic dancing, too.
At least those who attended Pasadena could walk into Pasadena or to numerous restaurants nearby. Not so much with the Edmond compound crowd. It's not kosher to mix with the unwashed heathens of the world unless Flurry and crew have courted them for their money for the concert series.
This is the Baptist church in Portland, Oregon where Herbert Armstrong was baptized by a Baptist preacher. Something that so many in the Church of God gloss over. Courtesy of Dennis Diehl.
The manipulation and deception of the Living Church of God continues to roll on. LCG recently launched a new web site that supposedly exposes the truth on what real doctrines are compared the traditions that many believe. That web site is called:
Even weirder is their DO NOT DONATE link where they say this:
In Matthew 10:8, Jesus Christ says: “Freely you have received, freely give.” Please share this website with your friends and family. They may think you are crazy, but have fun with it and remember: “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thess. 5:21, KJV).
TheBibleSaysThat.com is part of our outreach to proclaim the gospel of the coming Kingdom of God to all the world as well as to teach and make disciples using the Bible as the supreme authority. For many followers of the Word of God, restoring original Christianity begins with “unlearning” misguided traditions and concepts that are not found in the Bible. We hope this website will help with that.
Test everything you read here, and don’t just take our word for it. Feel free to write to us or comment on the website. This website and all of its resources are provided free of charge by the Living Church of God, which has ministers and congregations throughout much of the world.
What they fail to point out is that once you join up you will be subjected to 30% in tithes, numerous offerings, building funds, tithe of the tithe, and incessant financial appeals to support the final push so the end times can get here.
Then they have the gall to also ask people to share it with their friend and family and "have fun" doing it. They are right about one thing though, people WILL think they are crazy!
There is NOTHING "free" about the Living Church of God!
True Christianity begins the moment LCG members start unlearning the teachings of Herbert W Armstrong and the Church of God!
Poor Living Church of God. I have never see a Church of God that has to fight Satan as much as LCG does. Even Minion's right-hand man in Wadsworth never has this much trouble!
Doug Winnail writes another brief note to the membership of LCG stressing the ongoing Satanic battle that LCG is constantly fighting. Every single letter from LCG stresses the constant Satanic attacks.
Of course this battle is a direct result of the Spring Holy Days, days that God apparently cannot defend from the Wily-one who just cannot stand anyone eating matzo's.
As we approach the Holy Days, Satan always seems to become more active in the world and in our personal lives.A couple sentences later he says this:
At this time of year Satan also seems intent on stirring up problems and strife among God’s people wherever he can, so we must be on guard and not lose our focus on what these Holy Days mean for us and for all mankind—that there is a path to salvation that will eventually lead all mankind out of this present evil world.Um...if you are really a Christian who follows
In the next paragraph is a note from LCG Church Administration. They are none too happy that a large number of LCG members are marking LCG emails as SPAM. Things have to be pretty bad when your own members realize communications from Charlotte are not worth reading!
In addition to offering the Co-Worker letter electronically for many years, we have recently added email versions of LCG Member Letters and the Tomorrow’s World magazine. One of our responsibilities, as an organization, is to be a good “digital citizen,” and this includes requirements such as honoring “spam complaint” requests—which we do. One of the unanticipated surprises that we have discovered as a result of launching different digital subscriptions is that the vast majority of “spam complaints” that are submitted about us are from Church members.I can't stop laughing at this! Their own church members consider LCG's email as SPAM!
There is a reason though that LCG does not want this happening. It's all about numbers. The higher the number the more impressive they feel the public will think of them. Its all about outward appearances.
This was surprising, since we don’t send out unsolicited electronic mail, and we always operate on an “opt-in” basis. With that in mind, we would like to request that if you receive an email subscription from us, and no-longer wish to receive it, please utilize the unsubscribe method included at the bottom of any email, rather than simply marking the email as spam. This has two benefits. Firstly, it doesn’t negatively impact our reputation as an emailer. Secondly, when you report us as spam, your email address is black-listed by our system so that we can’t accidentally send you emails again in the future; with systems like MyLCG and festival registration, we need to be able to responsibly send you emails.
LCG brass just might want to consider that LCG members are SICK of hearing Satan constantly being blamed for the troubles in church. Troubles that are the result of corrupt men and leadership.
If you truly are a church of brotherly love then preach it and practice it.
Living Church of God claims that they will be discussing
The singles will be taught on how to build relationships in
Charlotte BRiC Weekend (an opportunity for singles)—Memorial Day Weekend—Repeat Announcement
Are you interested in insightful, spiritual discussions on Building Relationships in Christ? Do you desire to strengthen the relationships you already have with those around you? Do you also want to dance, relax, and enjoy a little fresh air? If you’re single and interested in the above, then be sure to attend this year’s BRiC Weekend, May 27–30.
Our theme for this year’s BRiC Weekend is Building Relationships in Christ through a culture of servant leadership. You can register for the weekend, as well as find the details for the weekend, at charlottelcg.org/BRiC.
When though, have those fun folks in Charlotte EVER practiced "servant leadership?" When has Rod Meredith ever stooped down to help the poor in his church or the world around him. When has Rod Meredith or the leadership of the LCG ever lowered themselves down to the level they have placed the membership at?
Better yet LCG singles, go and volunteer for Habitat for Humanity or the local soup kitchen that weekend and you will actually be "doing" Christ-like work. You will build relationships that actually work.
There never seems to be an end to the endless supply of Church of God splinter groups started by men who feel they have a special calling to preserve the "truth once restored." We are now blessed to have joining the over 600 different splinter groups...the Dutiful Church of God.
Of course no new Church of God can be started without praising Herbert Armstrong. Notice the description of their new splinter personality cult. What is missing in the introduction? Loads of praise and devotion to Herbert Armstrong and commitment to follow his ways, but no Jesus Christ.
About Dutiful Church of God?
Dutiful means -showing proper regard to a person with higher status. It also means devoted, obedient, compliant, dedicated, attentive, and motivated.
The Dutiful Church of God is dutiful to show proper regard to the teachings expounded by the late Herbert W. Armstrong. We are devoted to his teachings. We are obedient in follow his ways. As called by God under the late Herbert W. Armstrong, we are dedicate to continue on and hold fast to his original teachings.Later they have this:
Once more we have little men, who like Bob Elijah Elisa Amos Thiel, who have self appointed themselves as the true preservers ofWe are compliant to preach the truths to God’s flock splintered by grandiose leaders in the Church of God who believed they are greater than their teacher HWA.We remember the teachings of the late HWA. We do not idolize and worship him. Instead we pay him high regard as a great teacher.God starts small as in the time of the patriarchs in OT, in the time of Christ in NT, and in the time of HWA in the Philadelphian era of the Church of God. The Dutiful Church of God starts small. Do not despise the day of small beginnings. We will try to serve God’s flock who believe that we should not change but continue the original teachings of HWA.We are small but motivated in standing fast, holding the traditions, contending earnestly for the faith, and no longer be children tossed to and fro and carried about by trickery and cunning of men.
I can almost guarantee you this is a case of more men who cannot hold down real jobs and are looking for handouts from gullible church members. The religion gravy train is a profitable one.
If you plan on joining this personality cult then you need to beware that you will NOT be able to criticize your minister about ANYTHING! They say so, right up front.
Listen To The Counsel Of Your Minister.PROVERBS 19:20 “Listen to counsel and accept discipline, That you may be wise the rest of your days.”Even Christ obeyed the counsel of His Father. God did not send Jesus to the Jews to be an arbiter of dispute. When two Jews went to him to solve their argument, Christ said to them: “Who told you I am your judge?” Be like Christ who listened to the instructions of his Father.Here is a counsel from your minister.Do not give advice to Minister but you must listen to His advice. His counsel. And you will become wise in your spiritual life in the rest of your days. Wise in the ways of God. Wise how to get eternal life. Not wise in your own eyes and wise in the ways of the world.
Accept Admonition And Discipline From Your Minister.Admonition is an authoritative counsel. An example is counsel coming from your Minister.Discipline is an act of training to obey rules. As soldiers of Christ we can not perfect our TRAINING without ADMONITION and DISCIPLINE.PROV. 3: 11-12 “My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor detest His correction; For whom the Lord loves He corrects, Just as a father corrects the son in whom he delights.”I would love to see you all in the World Tomorrow. It would be a great reunion.Here is a counsel, a good wisdom.You must overcome your trials. You have problems with tithing, overcome it. You are often absent from services, overcome it. How many times are you absent in a year? Five times? Six times? Not good. You have problems with submission to authority, overcome it. You have problems with humility, overcome. Only overcomer will be in the WORLD TOMORROW.Avoid Strife By Not Arguing With Your Minister.One of the sources of strife in the CHURCH is insolence. Insolence- means rude and disrespectful.Strife is conflict, friction, discord, disagreement, dissension, dispute, argument, quarreling, wrangling, bickering, controversy, bad feeling, falling-out, bad blood, hostility and animosity.