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Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. Every crazy, weird and wacky quote is straight from the pens of Armstrongite leaders or members who think they possess some insight into God and the Bible. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!

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    Look again at the time frame of events related to the change in the throne.
    In November 1996, the PCG began plans to print Mystery of the Ages. That same month—on November 15—the stone of Scone was transferred to Scotland. Mystery of the Ages was on the rise, and that stone of destiny was faltering—and it is no longer the stone of destiny today.
    About 10 months later, on August 31, 1997, Princess Diana was killed in a car crash.
    Did the royal family of David’s throne lose some of its protection from God? I don’t know for certain, but it is interesting that it happened within a year of England surrendering the stone. God does give special protection to those who have the throne of David. He also punishes them for their sins more acutely than He would others.
    When God gave the revelation about the new stone on January 16, 2017, the royal family of Britain was displaced as the royal family of David’s throne. That was a signal of terrible things to come upon Britain, as well as a sharp decline of America and Judah. It was also an indication that we would see a rapid decline in Britain’s royal family.
    Look at what began happening to Britain’s royal family almost immediately after this change.
    The Queen was 91 years old at the time and obviously near the end of her reign. Her husband announced in May 2017 that he would step down from his royal duties later in the year. In its June 30, 2017, issue, Newsweek published a feature article about Prince Harry, in which he said that when his grandmother dies, nobody wants to assume the throne. “Is there anyone of the royal family who wants to be king or queen? I don’t think so, but we will carry out our duties at the right time,” he said.
    Well—God is relieving them of that responsibility!
    The royal family of Britain is no longer royal in God’s eyes, and I don’t think they are very royal in anybody’s eyes. They are the ex-royal family of David’s throne—the very throne that Christ is about to rule from forever!
    This is a universe-shaking event! Surely the angels have been shaken by this. And it is a very moving and stirring event to God the Father and Jesus Christ. This is reality—not a reality show, but reality!
    The Philadelphia Church of God is now the royal family of God’s throne! That is something to ponder! 

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    Geralrd Flurry says Christ comes to visit them more often now.

    Christ came to help us in the court battle. Is He still here, operating personally in some ways? Does He come back periodically, or is He staying here? Verse 11 is very much like verse 1: He stood there by the altar—He did the job Himself. Maybe He thinks it is necessary to be appearing more often to help us out because we are in the time when Satan has been cast down, and he and his demons are confined to Earth. Maybe in this utterly mad age with Satan and the demons cast down, we require Christ’s presence more than in the past. 
    And now, we have the very throne of God, which makes us a more obvious target!

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  • 07/01/18--22:17: PCG: God gave us our new jet


  • Now that God has given us the new throne, His Work is moving forward with a much faster speed. It is critical for God’s people to understand this. We are now in the gun lap of our race to Christ’s Second Coming. At this point, events in the world are speeding along at a breakneck pace. God is going to hasten to perform His Word. And He wants to stir us to our fastest speed in the final phase of His Work in this world. He wants us to expend all our energy to finish His Work—the last lap of the race! 
    Isn’t this the main reason God gave us a corporate Gulfstream G450 jet at the same time He gave us the new throne of David? 
    “And the word of the Lord came unto me the second time, saying, What seest thou? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north. Then the Lord said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land. For, lo, I will call all the families of the kingdoms of the north, saith the Lord; and they shall come, and they shall set every one his throne at the entering of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all the walls thereof round about, and against all the cities of Judah” (verses 13-15).

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    Gerald Flurry writes:

    In The Former Prophets, I gave seven reasons God’s faithful people are called the sons of Zadok. I will list them here and add an eighth. These will help you keep your focus on the throne of David. 
    1. We cling to The United States and Britain in Prophecy.Leaders in the Worldwide Church of God got rid of this book in the 1970s. Mr. Armstrong brought it back. After he died, they shelved it again, and people just followed along. But the sons of Zadok stand up for the truth of God! We are loyal to David’s throne! We fought a six-year court battle to win the copyright to that book and others. 
    2. We continue the dig in Jerusalem. We will do quite a bit more before it is over, I am sure. This is all related to David’s throne, on which the sons of Zadok have their minds fixed. 
    3. We are spiritual Jews who never lose the key of David vision.This is the only vision given to the Philadelphians (Revelation 3:7). 
    4. We continue to let God deepen that vision. 
    5. We continue to follow Mr. Armstrong, who taught us the truth about David’s family throne. His prayer rock became the symbol of David’s throne! What an honor for Mr. Armstrong— forever! He didn’t know this would happen, but I’m sure it will be a pleasant surprise for him when he is resurrected shortly. 
    6. We have staged musicals about Jeremiah and David, and both are centered on David’s throne. In Armstrong Auditorium in 2012, we presented Jeremiah: A Musical and Step-Dancing Extravaganza, a musical with a message about David’s throne. A year later we produced David: The Endless Throne Begins. 
    7. We are doing all we can to proclaim the key of David message to Israel and the whole world. 
    8. We have the new throne of David. Is that not a big part of why we are called the sons of Zadok? Think about this noble title! This is a tremendous honor that God has given us. Surely He did so because He knew we would have the throne of David in this end time.
    Notice WHO is missing from the pciture....

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    Jeremiah 7:32-34 speak of a horrific time soon to come when dead bodies will pile so high there isn’t anywhere to bury them.
    All joy and mirth will cease. Then notice what happens next. “At that time, saith the Lord, they shall bring out the bones of the kings of Judah, and the bones of his princes, and the bones of the priests, and the bones of the prophets, and the bones of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of their graves” (Jeremiah 8:1). They will have to know exactly where those graves are in order to  unearth them. “And they shall spread them [those bones] before the sun, and the moon, and all the host of heaven ...” (verse 2).
    The discovery of the tombs of the kings could create a world sensation very soon. The Holy Roman Empire destroys those bones because it worships the dragon (Revelation 13:4; Revelation 17). Satan hates David’s throne more than any throne on this Earth because it is about to replace his throne forever!
    Jeroboam had a fierce hatred for these righteous kings. That hatred comes from Satan, the god of this world. He has contempt for the throne of David, especially now that there is a new throne! Look at what these Satan-inspired people will do just to the bones of the righteous kings of David’s throne! Can you imagine what they would like to do to God’s people who possess that throne?
    You could say this will really upset God, but those kings are going to be resurrected right after this. Bones are not going to mean anything to us in the future. We will be able to visit personally with men like David and Solomon—what difference will their bones make then? Soon we will get to the point where there aren’t any more bones!
    What Satan wants to blot out most of all is the scepter promise. It’s about the race of kings who sit on that throne—and about Jesus Christ sitting on that throne and bringing grace to the world. Satan is in his greatest wrath because he knows his time is short (Revelation 12:12), and he wants to blot out everything that has anything to do with the throne of David.

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    If you were a Philadelphia Church of God member, could you and would you love your minister?  Would you love the one who tells you to dump your child at the mall?  Would you love the one who tells you to stop speaking to your children, grandchildren, parents or grandparents? Would you love the minister that tells you to sell your business and give all the money to the PCG?
    Do you really love the ministers who guard the ordinances of God? We must, if we are to share David’s throne with Jesus Christ! 
    Look where the Laodiceans are: They followed men who didn’t guard the truth of God. They followed men who did not follow God! 
    Next, let's threaten the members with tithing.  Make them feel like they are sinning for not sending in a full amount.  Make them feel like their salvation is at stake for not wanting to tithe.  Even though the new covenant does not expect tithing nor teach it, but instead force it upon your members as a salvation issue.
    The priests under Ezra collected tithes according to God’s law (verse 44). This is a doctrine the wcg did away with almost immediately after Mr. Armstrong died! They saw it as old and outdated. But anciently, those Jews learned to rejoice in giving to God. They loved to have a minister do whatever was necessary to keep them from going into captivity. They knew the value of such a minister! 
    Your salvation will be at stake if you do not remain faithful to your minister.  After all, he is far more important than Jesus or grace or love.
    We need to love God’s faithful ministers before the captivity so we can escape such captivity! We have to learn this lesson today and not go the way of those ancient Jews prior to captivity—the way the Laodiceans are going today. The modern- day nations of Israel are about to go into captivity—the worst captivity mankind has ever experienced!


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    Gerald Flurry says it is easily proven from the Bible that his creature he calls "god" speaks to him.  This just lets Ol’Sixpack off and places the burden on the members. He can say what he wants and get by with it and the members are dumb enough to follow along.
    In the past, when God has given me new revelation, words flowed into my mind and entered my thought process, often leading me to certain scriptures. But with the revelation about the new stone and throne, it was different. This time, I heard a strong voice. It was more powerful. I don’t think anyone else would have heard anything, but I certainly heard it. It really startled me, as I think it would anyone. That was the first time I had ever experienced anything like that.
    That voice left me somewhat shaken, but in a good way. As soon as I heard it, I started studying the Bible; I wanted to prove that revelation from God’s Word. After studying, I began to see that Jesus Christ was establishing a new throne, just like that voice had said. I began to find all the scriptures and put them together. You can do the same thing: This book goes through many scriptures that prove this truth. You don’t just have to accept my word for it: You can prove that voice came from God.
    I understand why some would question this, if I just heard a voice and didn’t have any proof from the Bible. But when you put all this evidence together, it proves that I really did hear a voice from God! The proof is all laid out in the Bible. You don’t want to follow someone who has simply heard a voice—I certainly don’t! It requires study, prayer and meditation on your part. There are also voices coming from the devil. People talk about hearing those voices all the time, after which they do terrible things!
    This is obviously extremely important to God. If He is going to vocalize that there is a new stone and a new throne, that has a lot of weight. I don’t know if Christ personally came or personally spoke, but I do know God conveyed that message to us. And when you see in Amos 9:11 where God says, “In that day will raise up the tabernacle of David,” it certainly could allow for Christ to personally speak this truth to His Church. After all, it is His throne! Amos 9:1 says He came and appeared before God’s people sometime during the court case. He made a personal appearance. At that time we didn’t see anything, but we know He appeared because the verse says so. (You can read about this in Chapter 4 of this book, and further prove it by studying my booklet on Amos.)
    I do think God will be working more directly with us as time goes on because we are preparing for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Christ is the Head of this Church. He can speak to HisleaderifHewantsto.Heisgoingtodoalotofthattoallof us very soon, so we had better get used to it.
    I have always said that God has never given me any vision outside of the Bible, and I still say that. This new revelation is in the Bible.
    But there was a change. When God gave me this revelation, it was many times more emphatic than any revelation God has ever given me. People can scoff at this, but they won’t have very long to do so! We will have even more dramatic things to show them before this is over.
    Why the change? Why would God, instead of just letting those thoughts come into my mind, speak this or have it spoken in such a strong way? I believe that Christ knew He had to emphasize it or I would not have realized what a radical leap this is for us spiritually! This is about the new throne of David! This is about a promise God made to David and has kept for all these thousands of years. Christ is about to return, and He has a voice in what kind of a throne will be here when He arrives!
    I don’t think God could have gotten the message across to me the way He normally reaches me. This was a gigantic change that had to be made in this Church! It is about ruling the world and even the universe! I think this message could only have been conveyed by a strong voice—and then we had to start proving it to be true.
    We know that Christ is the Head of this Church, but you know it more deeply when you hear a voice like that! It certainly underscores the importance of this revelation.
    Most places in the Bible where God gives revelation to a prophet, it reads something like, “The word of the Lord came ....” You can see this in Zechariah 6:9, for example: “And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying.” But as we will see in the next chapter, the context here is about the new throne of David. And in verse 12, it looks like there is a change here: “And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying ....” That seems like a different way of expressing it than it is in verse 9. It is discussing the BRANCH, or Christ, who delivered that message to somebody—maybe directly to me. From the context, it appears Christ may have spoken those words Himself.
    Many people would hear this and think it is a big fantasy. But they will not move a finger to try to prove whether what we say is true! Nevertheless, you can prove this. And it is your responsibility to do so if you are going to obey God!

    What God does require of people is to prove that Flurry is a raving lunatic and to then not follow the guy.  No human being should be paying tribute to any COG leader.  In 2018 not a single one of them have any credibility.

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  • 07/03/18--17:33: The Kingdom of God


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    Shedding Religion: Sixteen things people report about their journey. 

    1. You’re losing your religion but gaining your sanity. 
    2. You left the church because it wasn’t safe for your psychological health. 
    3. You know you are on the right path, but trying to explain it to others is like nailing Jello to a wall, and you often feel misunderstood. 
    4. Your new life beyond religion is not entirely as defined as things used to be. 
    5. You have twice as many questions as you do answers, but strangely you’re okay with this. 
    6. You were accused of being a heretic, and you took it as a compliment. 
    7. You desperately wish someone (anyone!) would just accept where you are right now. Just for a couple of people, you could sit down with face-to-face to share where you are without the threat of judgment and condemnation. 
    8. On Monday you feel free, and on Tuesday you wonder if you are going crazy. 
    9. You can't listen to Christian music anymore. 
    10. You don’t know how to answer the question, "What do you believe?" 
    11. You refuse to divulge the titles of the books you are currently reading because you know it’s going to alarm the people who already think you’ve lost it
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    12. You get nauseated when you hear glib God-talk. 
    13. You’re not sure where your Bible is. 
    14. Suddenly you find yourself liking the people who were previously classified as “them.” 
    15. You don't quite know what to say to people who ask you to pray for them or offer to pray for you. 
    16. You remember the things you once believed and say to yourself, "What was I thinking???"© 
    Jim Palmer

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    Gerald Flurry makes the following comment in his latest booklet.  This is pretty rich coming from a guy that controls every aspect of his follower's lives to the point they will abandon families just because he said so.  The Church of God has always been about legislating what its members thought with hundreds of booklets, letters, magazines and books on every topic imaginable.
    David could command huge choirs of people, and he commanded praising and thanking God. That is straightforward instruction. But you cannot legislate the way people think. This is where character comes in. Each individual must make his own decisions and master his own thoughts.
    When has any member in the church ever been able to make their own decisions and formulate their own thoughts without the church interfering in one manner or another?  Anytime a church member does that the ministry brings the hammer down.

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    Ever eager for God to come and spank the world with pestilence, famine and war, Gerald Flurry says that God is stationing angels at various points around the world in preparation for the tribulation. The angels are really pissed off like Flurry's god.  They are just itching to wipe most of humanity off the face of the earth. Church of God leaders need this to be so.

    The violence, pestilence, famine and starvation of the Tribulation are already building! The terrible prophecies we have discussed for years are starting to come to pass! And God isalready preparing by stationing these angels in certain locations among the nations. These spirits of God are walking to and fro over the Earth right now! They will have to deal with Satan in all his wrath to make sure God’s plan is carried out, and you can be sure they will succeed. God is active in all this.
    If God is getting ready for this even now, then we certainly should be getting ready too! This is not something to take lightly!

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    Gerald Flurry writes:
    Near the end of his life, Mr. Armstrong said that “restoration of God’s government is the one great purpose uppermost in God’s mind.” The new stone and new throne really fit right into that. God has brought His royal government into His Church. And God has His own government ruling from the throne of David.
    “Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David ...” (Isaiah 9:7). This is a vision we need to get locked into.
    “And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand ...” (Isaiah 22:21). The government is in the Church of God. Would God give the throne of David to people who won’t submit to His government? There is no way He would do that! That would defeat God’s own purpose.
    “And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open” (verse 22). That key of the house of David comes with a lot of power! Eliakim has the key to the house of David, and nobody can shut that door. Imagine that! We have this open door, and men would love to shut it, but they can’t! Armies would love to shut it, but they can’t! We are oftentimes berated and kicked around, but they can’t shut the door! And it drives them crazy!
    “And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father’s house” (verse 23). The father in this verse is Mr. Armstrong. This says that my office is going to be a glorious throne to his house. Mr. Armstrong was like a father to me, and many others as well.
    Eliakim is a father of the house of Judah. That throne will be returned to Judah. We are saying, “Behold your God!” to the cities of Judah and telling them the Messiah is coming! (Isaiah 40:9). He is going to come and sit on a throne. That throne is here!
    “In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall the nail that is fastened in the sure place be removed, and be cut down, and fall; and the burden that was upon it shall be cut off: for the Lord hath spoken it” (Isaiah 22:25). I have always thought this refers to the place of safety, and we have the throne of David when we get there.
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    God has established a new throne that possesses a certain purity that will allow us to pass this throne on to the Savior. How special! The more I think about this, the more I realize that God would never allow it to be done any other way. He would not want the royal family of Britain today to pass that throne to Him, as long as they are behaving the way they are.
    We are in a transition movement. We have the throne that will transition to God Himself! It looks like we will present the throne of God to Jesus Christ. We are in the transition stage of Christ ascending to that throne to rule the world!
    Imagine the great Father giving us the new stone and the new throne! We are God’s royalty! We have David’s throne! How blessed is this Church.
    This is mind-staggering revelation. We have been given a great gift and a clear vision of what God wants us to do. It is going to make God’s new civilization come alive for us! This is a preview of the World Tomorrow! Jesus Christ is about to return and marry His Bride. She will sit on David’s throne and assist Christ in ruling this Earth forever and ever. Our rulership will flow out into the universe, and there will be no end to the government and the peace that it will bring to this Earth and the universe.
    How can people truly be this stupid? I can't imagine sitting in church and listening to this idiotic nonsense any more than I could sit and listen to Dave Pack and his nuttiness. 

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    It is hard to understand the exact position the Living Church of God takes on things.  One minute they claim persecution for what they preach and the next minute they are cavorting with the so-called Christians they love to mock, whom they believe will eventually be persecuting them.

    LCG recently attended the National Religious Broadcasters Convention where they pretended that they were Christians like the rest of the people in attendance, though deep down they knew that EVERYONE there was nothing but disgusting fake Christians that their god hates.

    Like their mother church in the past, the LCG uses other Christians and their organizations to their advantage as long as it works to advance their cause.


    Photo of Gerald Weston and Larry Elder from LCG site
    In late February and early March, several ministers from the Living Church of God attended the National Religious Broadcasters Convention (NRB). This non-denominational convention—bringing together several thousand broadcasters from all over the world—represents an opportunity to remain current on technology, equipment and best practices in the areas of television, radio and Internet broadcasting. Political and cultural topics that impact religious broadcast efforts are also discussed, including sessions featuring panels of experts from multiple disciplines and media types.
    In the past, God has used these conventions to open doors for the Church to many new opportunities, such as broadcasting Tomorrow’s World into new countries and in other languages, saving money on equipment and services, and providing contacts that further the Church’s efforts in ways we would not have previously imagined.
    The 2018 convention was held in Nashville, Tennessee, and Presiding Evangelist Gerald Weston, Mr. Wyatt Ciesielka and Mr. Wallace Smith attended. The NRB was considered significant enough to draw the attention of the White House, which sent Vice President Mike Pence to address the attendees in one of the sessions. And of particular interest to the Work was this year’s focus on issues of censorship and the growing media bias against conservative and religious social values. One panel included popular media figures, such as commentator Larry Elder and popular radio host and author Dennis Prager. Mr. Prager, in particular, has been a victim of YouTube censorship for his intelligently made and culturally conservative videos, many of which the media platform has wrongly placed in the same restrictive category as violent and sexually explicit material.
    Some of these sessions discussed the scope of the problem and presented strategies for overcoming biased and unfair restrictions. Since our own Tomorrow’s World telecast is increasingly experiencing the growing force of this culture of censorship of anything resembling godly truth and values, the session was appreciated and very helpful. As panelist Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council pointed out to all attending, the efforts to silence voices that do not agree with our culture’s current slide into moral degradation are growing in strength, and for those who seek to get out a message like ours, we are in a sprint, not a marathon! It was clear from what these speakers presented that this is no time to slow down or “take it easy.”
    In addition to the panels and presentations on new media technologies and broadcasting opportunities, Messrs. Weston, Ciesielka and Smith spent time at the NRB with many of our television representatives and vendors, discussing strategies and prospects for expanding and magnifying the impact of the Work.
    What a privilege to be able to do God’s Work in the world at such a time as ours! We are grateful for the opportunities presented at the NRB and look forward to applying the information gained there for the sake of the Gospel.

    Advancing the Work at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention


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  • 07/06/18--22:21: The Browning of America


  • Wes White has given permission to post this excerpt from an earlier broadcast that he did.


    The Browning of America
    Wes:  I’d like to begin tonight’s segment by inviting you to go on a journey with me in a time machine.  Let’s go on a ride into history.  And we’re not going to visit a lot of different time periods– only two. We’re going to go back to the year 1500 AD and then we’re going to jump forward into time to our present time – about 500 years later. 

    So again, just two time periods.  But…  we’re going to visit six locations around the world.


    Are you ready?  Let’s go. 


    China


    First, let’s go to China.  Let’s get into our time machine and see what China was like in the year 1500 AD.  

    Well, in so many ways, China was the most advanced part of the world 500 years ago. China’s dominance in manufacturing and commerce in the year 1500 were the very reason why Columbus took off from Spain in 1492.  Columbus didn’t sail west to find new lands.  He sailed west to find a shorter route to China so that Spain could establish direct trade with the richest nation on the earth at that time.   


    Now, let’s stay in China, but let’s move forward in time to today.  What do we see in China today?  Well, a really similar situation.  Today, China has the largest economy in the world.  It creates tons and tons of manufactured goods that the rest of the world is anxious to buy.  
    And just like China 500 years ago, today’s China exports all kinds of good to the rest of the world.  The world is beating a path to China to buy those goods.  If it weren’t for products from China, your Wal-Mart would probably go out of business.  

    So what we saw of China 500 years ago is eerily similar to what we see in China today.

    Middle East


    Now travel back 500 years ago to the Middle East.   

    When we get there, what do we see going on in the Middle East in the year 1500? Well, that part of the world quite medieval in its culture.  It was dominated by the Islamic faith.  That faith kept women in an inferior social position relative to men.  Its population was dynamic and growing to the point where it had actually expanded into parts of Europe.  And this population expansion caused a lot of friction with European leaders who wanted to the Islamic people pushed back to the Middle East. 


    Let’s now move forward in time to today.  Don’t we see something really similar in the Middle East today?  Right now, the millions of Muslims who are moving into Europe from the Middle East have caused the proliferation of nationalistic movements in some European countries who want to see Muslim peoples pushed back into the Middle East. 


    So 500 years later, many aspects of the Middle East don’t seem to have changed. 


    Africa


    How about Africa?  When we take our time machine to Africa in 1500 AD, we find a continent that’s has a predominance of Muslim Arabs in the northern part of the continent while the majority of the rest of the continent is dominated by the black race.   We also find that, in the year 1500, there’s no continental unity in Africa.  The continent is mostly composed of small, competing tribes and clans.  Economically speaking in 1500, we find that Africa is by no means booming.  There’s a lot of poverty.  


    Then, as we move forward in time to today, we find a really, really similar situation in Africa, don’t we?  Not a whole lot of difference.  


    Europe


    And how about Europe?  Again, as we drive our time machine back to the year 1500, we find the European continent comprised of many nations, but they seem to be able to get along enough to have trade and commerce going back and forth.  In 1500, that part of the world was fighting to remove what they call “invaders” back to the Middle East. This whole conflict we see 500 years ago centered on both religion and race.  Remember that Queen Isabella of Spain isn’t famous today only because she financed Columbus’ voyage to the new world.  Isabella is also famous because she and her husband (in 1492) had run the Muslim Arabs out of Spain.  Many Europeans today long for another Queen Isabella.  

    So. When we compare Europe 500 years ago to Europe of today, we find some really similar dynamics vying for control of that continent. 


    South America and Mexico


    How about Latin America – you know -- South America and Mexico?  As we travel back to the year 1500, we find that Latin America back then was inhabited by Native Americans.  500 years ago, these indigenous people had no desire to unify into larger nations.  Like Africa, South America was decentralized under many different tribes:  Aztecs, Incas, Mayans, and many others. 


    Now let’s come back to our present time and look at its racial composition. Today, South America and Mexico are still inhabited primarily by the descendants of those Native Americans who populated the area in 1500 AD.   Demographically, South America and Mexico have the same basic racial population as it did 500 years ago.   Yes, a lot of European blood has been injected into the population of Latin America, but it’s still mostly of indigenous descent.  When we look at the politics, we see that South America is primarily a collection of many smaller nations.




    North America


    Let’s now move into North American.  As we travel back to the year 1500, we find that the central part of this continent is really similar to Africa and South America in the year 1500. The central part of the North American continent is composed of many different languages.  Different cultures.  


    But, when we move forward in time to our present day, we find that something astonishing has happened to this part of the world.  When we move forward in time to today, we find three major nations controlling the North American continent:  Mexico, Canada, and the US.   So right off the bat, we find a completely different political structure on the continent.  


    Further, we find something even more astounding.  In the area that’s now called the United States, we see a major change in the composition of the population.  Today, we see a totally different group living on this big piece of land than we saw 500 years ago. 


    Question:  In what’s now called the United States, are the system of government and the people who live here in any way identical or even similar to what we saw 500 years ago on the same spot?  Absolutely not.


    Again, in most places around the world, things today are fundamentally the same today as they were 500 years ago.  Except… in the land we call the US.


    Today, the land upon which the US sets is controlled by a strong, central government. 500 years ago there wasn’t anything close to any kind of central government over this land.  The Native American tribes were separate from each other when it came to government.  They spoke many, many different languages.  Some of those languages weren’t even related to each other.  Some of these languages don’t even have a common parent language that they evolved from.  


    And today, although there are indeed many languages spoken in this nation, the language of business and government and education in this piece of real estate is primarily English.  


    And here’s the part that is so incredible.  Today, the population of the US is primarily (not totally, but primarily) composed of people who are descendants of Europeans.  


    Unlike South America and Mexico where the population is primarily descendants of Native Americans, this North American nation we’re talking about is primarily composed of European stock.


    And, in the scheme of history…this is startling.  What we see in the US today is unparalleled in man’s 6,000 years of history.  


    As we compare the two snapshots of the overall world in 1500 AD and today, we’re tempted to say, “Things never change.”   And it’s pretty safe to say that because again, things in China, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Latin American, the demographics and governmental systems are really similar today to what they were 500 years ago. 


    But this statement – that things never change – in no way applies to the middle of the North American continent.  


    So, as we look at the United States, we gotta ask ourselves this question:  Is this European racial dominance going to last?  I mean, demographers, historians, and social scientists tell us that the European race is – comparatively speaking – getting to be a smaller, smaller – percentage-wise -- of the total population.  And they say that, over the next 100 years, the racial composition of the US is going to be completely reversed in that it’s going to get a lot closer to the way it was for thousands of years before Europeans started arriving in the New World over 500 years ago.  They say the country is eventually going to be dominated by the descendants of the aboriginal races that lived here for thousands of years before Columbus arrived. 


    In other words, while they concede that the racial composition of this land will never go back to being 100% Native American, they project that the Europeans will eventually become a minority and the aboriginal people who live here will eventually equal or exceed the number of European descendants who live here.    


    Important Interjection


    Now, let’s make some important points here before we start contemplating the ramifications of this monumental population shift that’s already upon us.


    First of all, the topic of race is always a difficult one.  The topic of race is so difficult that many preachers and teachers won’t go near it.  They realize that, once they wander into the topic of race, they’re walking into a minefield.  So they avoid it like the plague.


    But, as you know, I don’t mind taking on difficult topics if I feel the ecclesia can benefit from frank discussion.  And I believe the SOS audience eagerly embraces these discussions --  and that they use Christian maturity without getting hurt feelings and without taking on needless offence. 


    Second point.  This presentation is NOT going to be some white nationalism rant about how wrong it is that the white Europeans are being pushed out of the way by people with darker skin.  We’re not gonna go there.  And Carl and Nancy, if someone in the Chat Rooms gets into any racist nonsense, please delete their comments.  We want to learn from each other by civil disagreement.   But we’re not gonna let anyone use this show to promote racial division.  


    Remember that this show always teaches that every person who has ever lived on this earth was created for the purpose of becoming a member of the God Family. God loves every person who has ever been born because God wants that person to live eternally with him.  So I’m not going to be part of any movement that says we white people need to wake up because our country is being taken over by dark people.  That’s not what we’re about on SOS.  Our mission is to have Christian love for all people. 

    Third point.  I’m not an expert on race.  For the 12 years I was in elementary school and high school, I never attended school with an African American.  Not a single one.  In the town I was raised in back then, we simply didn’t have any people of color.  


    So I’m not even close to being an expert on other cultures and races.  And I admit it.  And this is why – over the decades – I’ve tried to do things like developing relationships with Spanish-speaking Sabbath keepers.  I try not to live in a white bubble.  Yes, I admit I have much to learn.  So, if I make an ignorant statement, please tell me I’ve goofed up so I can repent.  But then forgive me. 


    All right.  Let’s move on. 


    Let’s talk a little more about history.  Let’s try to understand how the US came to be where it is today and… why it’ll be where it is in the next 100 or 200 years.   
           

    It’s important to note that, demographically speaking, Europeans didn't become the majority race in North America till sometime well after1800.  I think the European race became dominant in the US somewhere around 1875 – give or take 25 years in either direction.  Let me explain.  


    Before 1789, the US was basically just thirteen squabbling, former British colonies clustered on the Atlantic coast.  Before 1789, Native Americans were the primary race of North America.  That statement is a no-brainer. 


    After 1789, the US had become of nation with a strong centralized government.   By 1800, there were 16 states – the original 13 colonies plus Vermont, Kentucky and Tennessee.


    In 1800, in spite of the fact that the US claimed ownership of most of the land south of the Great Lakes… and between the Atlantic Ocean and the Mississippi River – still -- in that big chunk of land, most of the areas were still populated by Native Americans and under the control of Native Americans So in 1800, the land called the US was mostly populated by Native Americans and most of the land was controlled by Native Americans. 

    Then, in 1803, the US doubled in size by purchasing the Louisiana Territory from France.  But the American nation was still in no way in control if that new land that it had just purchased.  That huge tract of real estate called the Louisiana Territory in 1803 was still populated and controlled primarily by Native Americans.   Remember that when Jefferson sent the Lewis and Clark Expedition to explore this new acquisition, there were very few Europeans living there.  Most of the European people who lived in the Louisiana Territory were in and around the city of New Orleans.  


    Again, all throughout the early 1800s, this piece of real estate that we now call the US was populated and controlled primarily by Native Americans.   


                Then -- somewhere over the next 100 years -- the racial composition of this land was reversed.  The racial composition of this land became majority European stock. And, at that point, the land became primarily controlled by the descendants of people who emigrated here from Europe. 


    So again, this switch took place somewhere in the late 1800s.  


    And this was a seismic shift in demographics.  Something like this doesn’t happen very often in history.  I’m not sure the world had ever seen such a quick and dramatic change. Remember that this reversal took place over a huge piece of land and it took place over a period of time less than 400 years long.  


    Again, this was unprecedented.  Now, we do see things like this happen in history on a smaller scale. 


    Like in 721 BC when the northern tribes of Israel were taken into captivity by the Assyrians.  And then the Assyrians sent a whole new group of people to populate that newly-vacated land. Then, by the time Jesus comes on to the stage of history, those people who were living in the land that was once populated by the northern ten tribes of Israel – those people were called Samaritans. But they weren’t of Israelite stock.  They were primarily a Gentile people.


    So we do see demographic upheavals like this take place in history. But I don’t think the world has ever seen such a major change happen like we saw take place in North American between 1700 and 1800.  This was demographically seismic. 


    Now, people always ask the question:  How did it happen?


    Well, I suggest that there were four reasons why the Europeans were able to replace the Native Americans on such a huge scale.  Let’s look at those four reasons:


    So in 1800, the land called the US was mostly populated by Native Americans and most of the land was controlled by Native Americans. 


    Then, in 1803, the US doubled in size by purchasing the Louisiana Territory from France.  But the American nation was still in no way in control if that new land that it had just purchased.  That huge tract of real estate called the Louisiana Territory in 1803 was still populated and controlled primarily by Native Americans.   Remember that when Jefferson sent the Lewis and Clark Expedition to explore this new acquisition, there were very few Europeans living there.  Most of the European people who lived in the Louisiana Territory were in and around the city of New Orleans.  


    Again, all throughout the early 1800s, this piece of real estate that we now call the US was populated and controlled primarily by Native Americans.  

                Then -- somewhere over the next 100 years -- the racial composition of this land was reversed.  The racial composition of this land became majority European stock. And, at that point, the land became primarily controlled by the descendants of people who emigrated here from Europe. 


    So again, this switch took place somewhere in the late 1800s.  


    And this was a seismic shift in demographics.  Something like this doesn’t happen very often in history.  I’m not sure the world had ever seen such a quick and dramatic change. Remember that this reversal took place over a huge piece of land and it took place over a period of time less than 400 years long.  


    Again, this was unprecedented.  Now, we do see things like this happen in history on a smaller scale. 


    Like in 721 BC when the northern tribes of Israel were taken into captivity by the Assyrians.  And then the Assyrians sent a whole new group of people to populate that newly-vacated land. Then, by the time Jesus comes on to the stage of history, those people who were living in the land that was once populated by the northern ten tribes of Israel – those people were called Samaritans. But they weren’t of Israelite stock.  They were primarily a Gentile people.


    So we do see demographic upheavals like this take place in history. But I don’t think the world has ever seen such a major change happen like we saw take place in North American between 1700 and 1800.  This was demographically seismic. 


    Now, people always ask the question:  How did it happen?


    Well, I suggest that there were four reasons why the Europeans were able to replace the Native Americans on such a huge scale.  Let’s look at those four reasons:

    So in 1800, the land called the US was mostly populated by Native Americans and most of the land was controlled by Native Americans. 

    Then, in 1803, the US doubled in size by purchasing the Louisiana Territory from France.  But the American nation was still in no way in control if that new land that it had just purchased.  That huge tract of real estate called the Louisiana Territory in 1803 was still populated and controlled primarily by Native Americans.   Remember that when Jefferson sent the Lewis and Clark Expedition to explore this new acquisition, there were very few Europeans living there.  Most of the European people who lived in the Louisiana Territory were in and around the city of New Orleans. 

    Again, all throughout the early 1800s, this piece of real estate that we now call the US was populated and controlled primarily by Native Americans.  

                Then -- somewhere over the next 100 years -- the racial composition of this land was reversed.  The racial composition of this land became majority European stock. And, at that point, the land became primarily controlled by the descendants of people who emigrated here from Europe. 


    So again, this switch took place somewhere in the late 1800s.  


    And this was a seismic shift in demographics.  Something like this doesn’t happen very often in history.  I’m not sure the world had ever seen such a quick and dramatic change. Remember that this reversal took place over a huge piece of land and it took place over a period of time less than 400 years long.  


    Again, this was unprecedented.  Now, we do see things like this happen in history on a smaller scale. 


    Like in 721 BC when the northern tribes of Israel were taken into captivity by the Assyrians.  And then the Assyrians sent a whole new group of people to populate that newly-vacated land. Then, by the time Jesus comes on to the stage of history, those people who were living in the land that was once populated by the northern ten tribes of Israel – those people were called Samaritans. But they weren’t of Israelite stock.  They were primarily a Gentile people.


    So we do see demographic upheavals like this take place in history. But I don’t think the world has ever seen such a major change happen like we saw take place in North American between 1700 and 1800.  This was demographically seismic. 

    Now, people always ask the question:  How did it happen?


    Well, I suggest that there were four reasons why the Europeans were able to replace the Native Americans on such a huge scale.  Let’s look at those four reasons: 

    The first was population expansion by the Europeans.  Unlike today, at that time, Europeans had large families.  Europeans were outgrowing their continent across the Atlantic.  They had deforested their wooded areas.  They weren’t able to grow enough crops to feed all their people. So they pushed into North America.  

    The second reason was the practice of forced relocation on the Native Americans.  Remember that Andrew Jackson’s Trail of Tears wasn’t the only time that Native American tribes were uprooted and forcibly moved off their lands and made to live in some other part of the continent.  Forced relocation was one factor in this demographic shift.

    The third reason this population replacement happened was war.  


    And the fourth reason this happened – and this was the biggest reason – was disease.   We can’t place too much emphasis on disease in shaping the population demographics in North America.  


    Let’s go back to ancient times.  Right after the Flood, the people of the world were united at the Tower of Babel. Then God dispersed them all over the world…  for two reasons.  One was because He wanted the entire earth populated.  And the second reason is because of the one-world government rebellion that took place under the leadership of people like Cush and Nimrod and Semiramis.  So God confounded their languages and forcibly dispersed them so they wouldn’t remain clustered in what is now Iraq. 


    From that dispersion out of the Mesopotamian Valley in the Middle East, people then migrated over the entire world.  


    Anthropologists believe that people from Asia migrated to the North American continent from what is now Siberia.  Some of them may have come over the Pacific Ocean in boats. Anthropologists and archeologists are still debating this issue. 


    The point is that – by the time Columbus showed up in North America in 1492 – the whole inhabitable world was populated.  But there were – for all intents and purposes -- two worlds: Europe, Asia, and Africa were the old world.  North and South America were the new world.   These two worlds had virtually no contact with each other for thousands of years. Each world didn’t even know the other existed. 


    And during these thousands of years of separation, the old world inhabitants had developed some horrible strains of disease.  Here’s a list of diseases that the Europeans brought to the new world:


    The plague, The plague, chickenpoxcholera, the common colddiphtheria, influenza, malaria, measles, scarlet fever, sexually transmitted diseases,typhoidtyphus, tuberculosis, and pertussis (whooping cough).  Again, these are diseases we find in the old world before 1492.  


    But we don’t find them in the new world.  The new world people had never experienced these diseases before 1492. 

    Why not?  Many scientists believe that the Native Americans had never experienced these diseases was because they were cleaner the Europeans.  The Native Americans bathed.  They practice better oral hygiene.  They understood the importance of hand washing.  For centuries in Europe, bathing was frowned upon by the church. Another topic for another time. 


    The Europeans were basically nasty.  They stunk.  They didn’t wash their clothes on a regular basis.  And they were too hung up on alcoholic beverages – something that didn’t exist in the new world before 1492.


    So, for a lot of reasons, Europe developed diseases that had never touched the new world before Columbus.  And, because the Europeans had experienced these many diseases, their bodies had developed high degrees of immunity to those diseases. 


    Unfortunately, the Native Americans had developed no such immunities.  They never needed these immunities before the Europeans showed up. 


    So, when the Europeans accidentally infected the Native Americans with their diseases…


    And let me add something important.  I can find nothing in history that indicates the Europeans every deliberately infected the Native Americans.  I’m not saying it never happened.  I’m saying that I can’t find anything in history that indicates it was ever done deliberately. 


    Back to our point.  When the Europeans accidentally infected the Native Americans with their diseases, the people in the new world died by the millions.  I’ve read estimates that said up to 90 percent of the Native Americans died because of exposure to these nasty Europeans and their diseases.  90%!  


    Many times, Europeans would move into an area of the New World and they wouldn’t see any people for miles and miles around.  So they thought it was land that had never been occupied. What they didn’t know was… that that land had once hosted a teeming population of Native Americans that had only recently died of European disease.  


    So these are the four main reasons why there was this great demographic shift from majority Native American to majority European.   The Native Americans were dying off at a rapid rate and the Europeans were moving in and having lots of kids.  


    And that’s why, by the year 1900, Europeans had become the dominant race and the dominant culture in this land that we call the US. 


    Now, here’s where the demographers come back into our discussion. Because this story isn’t over. It’s far from over. 


    While it took the anthropologists and the archaeologists to explain the past, it takes the demographers to tell us what’s coming in the future.  And the demographers say that European racial dominance over North America is going to end somewhere between 2040 and 2100 AD. They say that, between the years 2040 and 2100, European stock will no longer be the dominant race of the land called the US.    Some of you may live to see this switch.  


    The demographers point out that the descendants of Europeans are already the minority in as many as 21 states.  


    Some real quick facts from an article by Sabrina Tavernise of the NY Times.  It appeared on June 20, 2018:

    n  Deaths now outnumber births among white people in more than half the states in the country.    


    n Fertility rates in whites dropped drastically after the Great Recession of 2008 and mortality rates for whites have been rising, driven partly by drug overdoses.  


    n  The majority of the youngest Americans are already non-white. 


    n  In California, 52 percent of all children are living in homes with at least one immigrant parent.


                So now, let’s get back into our time machine and now let’s go into the future.  Let’s take a look at the year 2100.  If the demographers are correct, when we get to 2100, we’re going to look at the US and see that the European race’s dominance of NA lasted only about 200 years!  That is, European racial dominance went only from the year 1900 to the year 2100!


    Only 200 years!  And 200 years is nothing in the overall scheme of man’s 6,000 year history.  200 years is just a blip on the radar in man’s history.  


    Now, I suppose that, in some ways, this development may shock us. But maybe we should look at this as civilization’s natural desire to be like it was in the past.  


    Now, are we saying that this demographic reversal is a bad thing or a good thing?  No.  These are just the facts being related as accurately as we can.  We’re not putting any value on this demographic data.  It is what it is.  


    Further, we must never forget that we don’t always know what God’s plan is in all this.  We’re just finite beings trying to look at the big picture.  And this is so difficult for us because we tend to obsess with the micro here and now…and ignore the macro overall.  



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    Gerald Flurry has an article up on his website that he wrote about the Armstrongite hymn, By the Waters of Babylon.  

    His entire article is written which such hopeful delight that ex-Church God members would be wishing they could sing this song as they are held captive in Saudi Arabia or Germany.

    Because Church of God members chose not to listen to Flurry, they will be sent into captivity.  You remember that,  it's that fun time that the Church of God loved to use as a weapon to keep members under control.  Do what I say or you will be taken captive by the Germans or other agents of the Beast power, as they take you into captivity and put you in concentration camps or make you their slave.

    From ROYAL VISION November-December 2015 
    PSALM 137 PAINTS A TERRIFYING PROPHETIC PICTURE OF A TRAGEDY ABOUT TO BEFALL A GREAT MANY OF GOD’S PEOPLE.
    It begins, “By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion”(Psalm 137:1). Zion refers to God’s Church. In the end time, there is a righteous Zion and a rebellious Zion. Here the rebels remembered their recent history with righteous Zion before they rebelled. This is a prophecy about God’s Church. 
    The Psalms are filled with prophecy: They are mainly the work of David, who was a prophet (Acts 2:29-31). Jeremiah and Moses were also prophets who wrote some of the psalms. 
    Verse 8 of Psalm 137 also shows that this is prophecy: “O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.” Who is the “daughter of Babylon”? Anciently, God sent Jeremiah to Judah with a warning for the Jews that Babylon was coming. When he wrote his book, however, he didn’t address it to Judah—he addressed it to Israel. That is because his message is a prophecy for the end-time descendants of Israel. Babylon is coming again, but this time it is the daughter of Babylon.
    This prophecy about “Zion” is for this end time. Specifically here, Zion refers to God’s Church in the modern day—the work of Herbert W. Armstrong and the Philadelphia Church of God.
    This is talking specifically about people who remember Zion—the work of Mr. Armstrong—while they are enslaved by Babylon. They are captive in Germany, Saudi Arabia perhaps, and other countries like Turkey and Lebanon—and they are weeping! They are weeping in Babylon. They didn’t weep when they were in the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Judah. They didn’t weep then, but they are weeping in captivity to Babylon!
    There are people in God’s Church—the Laodiceans, in the last era of God’s Church before the Second Coming (Revelation 3:14-22)—who are about to go into captivity!
    All of the wayward Church of God members out there enjoying life outside the church will soon bee looking back in wistful nostalgia at the memory of Herbert Armstrong (and Gerald Flurry) and all that he taught.  They will realize he was the true end time prophet.
    While in captivity, these people remember righteous Zion in—this must mean that THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN RIGHTEOUS ZION TODAY! Only the Laodiceans could ever remember loyal Zion. People who were never in that Church could remember the message of Zion, but only the Laodiceans could remember righteous Zion. In that future distress, they will remember Mr. Armstrong; they will remember the members of the Church; they will remember what happened in the past. How can you just blot it out of your mind? They will remember how we served God together—so, in captivity, they will weep and finally repent. But THEY WON’T REMEMBER UNTIL THEY ARE IN BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY! 
    Given the fact that every single COG leader, from the present day through the past 80 some years, has told one lie after another about the "sure word of prophecy" they proclaim. How can we trust certified liars like James Malm, Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland and Gerald Weston, as they spout one silly useless prediction after another.  All of these men got their understanding from Herbert Armstrong, who was the grandfather of the lies they continue to promote.

    The Laodiceans have to repent and sing these songs in a strange land. It will take a Babylonian captivity to wake up these people of God.
    They become victims of God’s warning prophecies, which they had helped to proclaim before they rebelled!
    BY THE WATERS OF BABYLON:

    By the waters of Babylon, There we wept and there sat down; 
    Hung our harps on the willow trees, Zion, yet we remember'd thee! 
    Then our captors required of us; Sing a song of Zion now! 
    Could we sing the Eternal's songs, By the waters of Babylon? 
    Let my right hand forget her skill, If Jerusalem I forget; 
    If I fail to remember thee, Let my tongue cleave unto my mouth! 
    But we thought of Jerusalem, When we sat near Zion's streams. 
    Far above even our chief joy, We remember'd Jerusalem. 
    In that day of Jerus'lem's fall, When the children of Edom said, 
    Down with her, down unto the ground, 
    Even to the foundations! 
    O thou daughter of Babylon, 
    To thy ruin hast'ning on; 
    Happy he that rewardeth thee, 
    Just as thou unto us hast done.




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    Producing Fruit
    Van Robinson


    Jesus Christ stated that "by their fruit you will know them" and that is the absolute criteria that determines who and who is not a fruit producer.  Some produce sour grapes.  Some produce lemons.  Others produce honey.

    Fruit in the lives of human beings is public.  What preachers and pastors produce is public and the fruit of many preachers is GREED and personal VANITY.  Greed and vanity are not desirable fruits.  Humility is a good fruit.  Being a peacemaker is a good fruit.  Taking vain titles such as "elder", "pastor", "senior pastor", "bishop" and so forth are NOT good fruits.  It doesn't matter what the "apostle" Paul said, because he is not the source of truth and light, but rather Jesus Christ is.  Paul was not and is not "master", although millions seem to think he is.  How often I have heard speakers from the pulpits say "Paul said", "Paul said", "Paul said", "Paul said" as if Paul was God in the flesh.  He wasn't!  I care not what Paul said, but rather I care what Jesus said.  Offended?  Follow Paul if you wish, but know this, Paul was not and is not God.

    Herbert W. Armstrong was not God either, nor is any leader of any splinter group of the WWCG.  All men are clay or if you wish dirt.  If you think otherwise, just stick around awhile and see how many men wind up in the grave yard and return to dirt (100%).  Every religious guru who stands in a church pulpit and pounds the pulpit with his peculiar beliefs will eventually fade from this life and this world.  Why follow them as if they are somebody?  They are nobody!  Quality fruit is naturally desirable.  Rotten fruit is repulsive!  It is amazing how much rotten fruit stands in pulpits.

    Rotten religious fruit is vain, haughty, demands obedience, demands money and compels the naive and the gullible to conform or else,  and thrives upon instilling FEAR in the simple minded.  Rotten fruit seeks followers and wants an endless supply of free money to build buildings and provide a lifetime of free income for its control freaks.  Rotten fruit produces NOTHING of value and makes sick those who eat it.


    Van Robison



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  • 07/08/18--18:50: The most sincere prayer

  • Does God listen to the prayers of a person like this, raw and unfiltered, or does he desire 1 hour 
    knee-numbing, "I am an unworthy worm in your sight" and help me to keep the law better prayers?




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    And here we go again. High temperatures have hit the western states and have contributed to fires. Que the Armstrongite self-appointed false prophets screeching that it is God's punishment.  Their god is in a perpetual state of pissiness at everyone around them.  Of course, their god is always mad because people around the COG false prophets never measure up to the legalistic rules and regulations that they worship more than God himself.  They need an angry god on their side who hates the people who criticise them and ignore their idiotic rants.  They imagine themselves to be like the prophets of the Old Testament who had God strike their accusers down.

    Our favorite self-appointed narcissistic false prophet of that angry god is back regaling us with his tales of woe.

    The Bible shows that God uses weather to get people’s attention. Sometimes to punish, sometimes to lead to repentance, and other times to consider that God, not humankind, is in control.
    Heat will one day be much worse:
    8 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory. (Revelation 16:8-9) 
    Notice also the following about heat:
    23 ‘The whole land is brimstone, salt, and burning; it is not sown, nor does it bear, nor does any grass grow there, like the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, which the Lord overthrew in His anger and His wrath.’ 24 All nations would say, ‘Why has the Lord done so to this land? What does the heat of this great anger mean?’ 25 Then people would say: ‘Because they have forsaken the covenant of the Lord God of their fathers…(Deuteronomy 29:23-25)
    Fires have hit many places; Significant wildfires have hit California. Shortly after the start of the Thomas Fire, California Governor Jerry Brown warned that the US President did not have “the fear of the wrath of God.” Does God use fire to encourage people to change? What are some of the scriptures associated with fire in the Bible? What is sin? What are some of the scriptures associated with the wrath of God in the New Testament? Is Governor Brown being hypocritical here? What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah? Is this relevant now? What did Jesus teach about the time of Sodom and the coming time of troubles? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more.

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  • 07/09/18--09:51: Apostasy

  • This is a new film coming out this month about life in the Jehovah's Witnesses cult and what happens when a member strays and questions the faith.  There are many parallels to Armstrongism. The JW's also believed the end times were happening in 1975, they practice public disfellowshipment like the COG does, they practice shunning like the COG does, and much more.

    It is an interesting side note that Herbert Armstrong had many JW booklets in his basement walk-in safe that were marked and highlighted.  The claim that HWA amalgamated his beliefs from the SDA's, JW's and Mormons, carry way more weight than many want to believe.

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