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- People are often dishonest, deceptive, or have been deceived by others.
- People are often irrational or motivationally biased in their thinking (e.g. egocentrism, sociocentism, wishful thinking, superstition, and sexism).
- People have natural tendencies to think illogically, even when they manage to avoid being irrational or motivationally biased in their thinking (e.g. hasty generalization, post hoc fallacy, confirmation bias, false dilemma, errors based on the ‘representativeness heuristic’, belief bias (“When one’s evaluation of the logical strength of an argument is biased by their belief in the truth or falsity of the conclusion.” See article on Cognitive Bias:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias )
- Most of what people believe, they “learned” from others (parents, teachers, pastors, friends, books, magazines, television, movies, newspapers, blogs) who are usually not experts in, and not well-informed about, the topics that they were talking about. Misinformation is a widespread cultural phenomenon.
- The truth or the best solution to a problem is often difficult to figure out, even when everyone involved is thinking logically, rationally, and being honest (which is almost never the case).
- Skepticism works, especially in relation to trying to understand nature and how natural processes work. Science works by challenging claims, assumptions, and theories, and by demanding carefully gathered facts and data to support claims, assumptions, hypotheses and theories, and by subjecting scientific arguments, hypotheses, experiments, and theories to skeptical peer review."
- 04/11/17--10:49: But I Kept The Sabbath!!!!!
- 04/11/17--19:40: The Church of God, even in Passover it cannot be unified
- 04/12/17--23:06: Gerald Flurry Follows in HWA's Steps and Buys Gulfstream G450 Jet
- 04/13/17--11:31: COGWA On What True Prophets Should Be Like
- 04/14/17--07:54: Cruci-Fiction?
- 04/14/17--10:39: Dave Pack Editing Embarrassing Comments From Sermons
- 04/14/17--20:39: Dave Pack: Donald Trump is the Herod the Great of the 21st Century
- 04/16/17--11:04: Jesus Christ is Risen Today
- 04/16/17--23:04: COG Leaders Who Cry and Whine About Being "Persecuted"
Dave Pack on the greedy, grasping and covetous splinter group leaders and members.
It’s also a quality of God. God is longsuffering. People have really disgraced God’s name. For decades, a lot of these people, who will turn out to be wonderful, walked around with what Christ says is their private parts hanging out, spiritually speaking! They walked “naked” and disgraced Him. This great servant came in the 20th century, and when he died and we had a false leader, they ruptured into 400 groups, they were so greedy and grasping and covetous. Trust me when I tell you, because I know so many of them. They are covetous! They’ll find no problem…be falling off a log backwards to sell God’s people from these groups—who shamefully went on to split into 400 groups because they didn’t see a leader like Mr. Armstrong. Certainly, Joe Tkach wasn’t, so they picked the leader of their choosing.I don’t know if God gets embarrassed by His people. I don’t know. I don’t read in the Scriptures that God gets embarrassed; but certainly, they have trashed His name, and they’ve flung mud all over the name of Herbert W. Armstrong by falling into this terrible condition. God isn’t going to let them just waltz back in while He’s playing their favorite tune. They have to be tested, and proof that they need to be tested is that some of them are going to sell out. What if He just let them come? The sellouts would come back, and we’d have a mess on our hands.
Exit and Support has the following up:
We need to first understand that the observance of festivals in high demand groups is for the purpose of controlling members. It is much easier to have authority over someone if their lives are molded around the "church."
Leaders of totalistic groups have always taught that if healthy members didn't show up for the Passover service, they were gravely sinning and were in danger of "losing the Holy Spirit." To the contrary, the Scriptures show that the Holy Spirit and eternal life cannot be lost or taken away, and we are sealed the moment we place our faith and trust in Christ. (See John 14:16; John 10:28; II Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:13; 4:30)
Christ, our Passover, has already been offered. Therefore, to continue to observe the O.T. Passover is to say He never came.
Today many Christians observe what is called the "Lord's Supper" (often referred to as Communion), but the issue is not whether we do or don't observe a ritual and how often. It is about what Christ has already done for us and remembering that every day. He no longer holds our sins against us.
The Lord's Supper (excellent study; explains the Last Supper in the context of the Passover; also covers I Corinthians 11 in the 2nd message and how many people have twisted it today) (offsite link]
What about The Night To Be Much Observed?
Should Christians celebrate the Night to be Much Observed? Nowhere does the Bible tell Christians to observe this occasion.
WHAT?!?!?!? How on earth can I say that? It's a Night. To. Be. Much. Observed. The Bible clearly tells us to remember it. It's in the name, for crying out loud.
How did Christ's original disciples spend the night after the Passover? Were they celebrating the night of this alleged observance, while their teacher's body lay in the garden tomb? It seems unlikely. There is no mention of a celebration that night, and John 20:11 tells us that Mary Magdalene was still weeping when she went to the tomb. The disciples appeared to be visibly upset when Christ met them on the road to Emmaus in Luke 24:17. Lavish food was the furthest thing from their minds.
In short, the case for celebrating Herbert W Armstrong's Night to Be Much Observed is flimsy at best. Christians who honestly consider its alleged timing and symbolism may find it a tad distasteful. The COGs have us celebrate Christ's victory when His body was barely cold in the grave, yet they ignore the miracle of His resurrection. If were commanded to keep it, that would be one thing. But we aren't. It isn't even in the Bible.MUST CHRISTIANS OBSERVE THE OLD COVENANT PASSOVER?
Were gentiles in Corinth observing the Feast of Unleavened bread?
Easter History part I
Easter History part II
Wayne Carver's Crucifixion Chronology - part I
Wayne Carver's Crucifixion Chronology - part II
Poor Dave Pack, he has been blasting out a warning message for 17 years now and no one in the broader Church of God cares. He has had 3 1/2 years of prophecies fail. Superfantabulous Dave is not so superfantabulous after all!
Dave is still predicting that tens of thousands of COG Members will soon be fleeing their respective COG groups and joining up with Dave and his band a merry makers. Just think what a fun day it will be to see Bob Thiel bowing before Dave in obedience. Just imagine James Malm and Vic Kubik being subservient to Dave. What a scene that will be! Just imagine Dave swiping Gerald Flurry's Stone of Scone and placing it in Wadsworth.I would submit to you, that moment has not yet come. I’m not a ruler. You are not. We have no authority. We have no reach, no power, to get to the splinters to hear or see us. We just passed a couple days ago, seventeen-and-a-half years old. I have tried for one-and-three-quarter-decades of my life, with all my heart and mind and soul and being…You’ve seen the books…to try to movepeople, and they’re not listening. I have no authority over them; neither do any of our ministers; neither do any of our staff. We are not, currently, today—and it is impossible to say that we are—in any sense, ruler over all of God’s household…yet! But at a point, prior to when He comes, it says we better be found so doing. At some point, we will be. I would submit to you, it’s not exactly clear when that happens.Maybe there’s a way to view it where it’s already happened, because we’re giving them tools and they might start listening. But I would submit to you, the greater way to think of it, is when they have no shepherds—there’s no one to tell them what to do—they’re crying day and night, in what can only be called, perfectly, by God, a fire and they’re not allowed out. Their “go” signal, their “exit” signal, is a point after the wicked leave. God has curiously flipped it. They’re going to find they’re the only ones left. And somebody has to be working with them and found so doing that. Because that’s what His household is—all of his domestic affairs. To give them food—feed the flock of slaughter; to give them meat in due season—kairos, a set appointed time right before Christ returns—where you feedthem.
What an absolute pathetic mess Armstrongism has turned into. It is an embarrassment. 30 years after having a chance to make it right, all they do is bicker, whine and self-appoint themselves to new lofty positions, of which not a single one of them is qualified for.
From an LCG source:
Tomorrow's World Now (Live) . Actual quotes (excerpts from first 4 minutes out of 20):Host Dylan King: It's a brand new technology....We're excited to come to you right now, live, wherever you might be. You might be on your phone, you might be on your computer, you might be at home, you might be at work, you might be in Asia, you might be in India. You could be ANYWHERE in the world and seeing us RIGHT NOW, which is SO exciting for us to be able to talk to you, right here now....
What do you think about this really neat endeavor that the Living Church of God is doing through Tomorrow's World now; this new show?Wyatt Ciesielka: First of all, I'm really excited about it. God has called his church to preach the gospel to the world and this is one way we can do it....It's a big day for us. Hopefully God will bless it (scornful comment: if you don't get huge numbers does it mean God isn't blessing it?), hopefully those who watch it online will pray for us and pray that it will be blessed, and that it can be effective (scornful comment: if it fails we know who to blame, the faithless viewers!) .Host: Right now there's probably 10, 20, 30, we don't know how many people watching, but, you know, there's a really HUGE potential out there for this technology (scornful comment: but if nobody views it other than LCG members it means that God is obviously not calling anyone, so it's still a success because you tried but it wasn't in God's will for anyone to view, right?). I mean, how many people are actually on Facebook these days? 'Cause I know it grows pretty much every day, every minute, every hour, right?Wyatt Ciesielka: Some stats that we looked up before the show, there are more than 5 new profiles created every second. Uh, there's probably about 2 billion active Facebook users, some uh, sources say about 1.9 billion, but those are ACTIVE Facebook users.Um, and we know Facebook reaches people all around the world, like you were mentioning. There's something also coming out, uh, which we're excited about, it might be an opportunity for us to reach people in the developing world: Facebook Lite....
Yeah, and what's really, uh, exciting, and I think, um, you know, we know that uh, media can be used for good or bad, we understand that. But, uh, I think the church has to take advantage of technology, and doors that God opens.
Since Herbert Armstrong's death in 1986, hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups have broken off of the mother church. Each one claiming they hold the exclusive rights to what God actually thinks and expects. One self-appointed apostate after another have set themselves up as God's exclusive mouthpiece here on earth. Dreams and endless revelations come to these fools daily.
In spite of all the disunity, one might expect that the Church of God would be unified in keeping it's Old Covenant version of the Passover. Even with that, the Church of God is divided.
Some groups claim Passover was a few days ago on the might of the 9th, other's like James Malm say it is tonight, the 11th. Others claim it is later this week. Others sat outside in the early mornings waiting for the slightest sliver of the moon to show up over Jerusalem and others were outside looking for barley grains, whether in barley fields or along side roads where stray barley has taken root. If it is there, the legalists will find it.
Chief Pharisee Malm is particularly incensed at those who do not keep it on the same day he does
How can the COG ever be unified when it cannot keep its sacred Passover together as one? Even worse, most of these foolish men all claim they will be heading to Petra where God is going to give them final training. Imagine what a fight will erupt there since none of them can get along together today. Laughingly, they all expect to do some major mind boggling work in the near further. They won't and they can't.
Imagine tens of thousands of present day church members and ex-members flooding into the Restored Church of God. Dave sees these people also becoming part of the wicked that end up following the two shepherds because the brethren are really, really stupid and think these two men will be the two witless witnesses. These two men will deceive most of the brethren along with the gullible public. These two wicked shepherds are crafty and cunning men. They will make the COG members and thousands of pagans turn over all of their money to the true church for its use. Hundreds of millions of dollars will flow into superfantabulous Dave's empire. The glory days will be here!
Now, how does the trial end? Well, this is the brilliant genius of God…I know I’ve explained these things, but I want it all clear. How does the trial end? The trial ends, not with the righteous leaving the wicked, and there went all the assets…but God has Satan’s agents loot the wicked and then has them all leave. They’re sent an additional delusion in some way, and out go thousands and thousands of the wicked. They just depart, and the righteous are left with everything and then they’re told to go to the mountain—because there’s only one government left. That’s why it says “the mountain” and bring the wood. Bring home the beef bacon…or turkey bacon. So God loots the wicked. And if the righteous leave they are disobeying God’s command to stay and bring the assets, because those assets are going to be used.The wicked are literally going to contribute…and the devil always does. He stumbles into serving God’s purpose. They’re going to gather all…All of this, enormous funds, is going to be used in the Kingdom of God to “juice” us in a way we probably can’t even imagine; but I’m going to tell you, it will involve hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. It has to. It’s the net worth of a large group, plus all the assets they brought going in—just corporately—as well as the individual groups.Now let’s understand a few other things. God has to have a way to test thousands of people before He brings them back to His flock, so He has to…He hands them over to Satan. That’s what this is. For a longtime, I first thought, wow, the Man of Sin is in the Church, but what we never really addressed is why. Why would God raise up two wizards and a false Jesus and jam all of His peopleunder those men? Why would you do that if you’re God? For the same reason the five other cases I cited, scripturally, He turns them over to Satan. It’s to test them—to forge and temper—and toughen—and wizen them. And after suffering, people learn. Suffering kicks the mental learning mechanism into gear. I learned that decades ago. I think the fifth sermon I ever gave was on the subject of suffering.
Leave it to Gerald Flurry to imitate Herbert Armstrong in another endeavor. Never one to come up with anything original, Flurry had to buy his own flying whorehouse so that he too can fly unencumbered by having to sit next to the unwashed masses on regular planes. That is one of the excuses that the Philadelphia Church of God actually used when they tried to justify buying the plane. Gerald Flurry, God's special chosen prophet/apostle, should not have to fly sitting next to dirty and uncouth passengers who might give him a cold or perhaps accost him for preaching utter nonsense.
Philadelphia Church of God is having money issues and yet the church buys a jet that sells for over $12,000,000.00 for a 2008 model and up to $43,000,000.00 for a brand new one. Average cost for a used jet is $16,000,000.00. It is considered one of the least economical jets out there when compared to others.
One thing is for certain, Flurry's grand kids will now be able to fly in luxury as they fly around the world to enter Irish Dance contests. After all, this is the official dance of the Kingdom of God and who better to teach it than a Flurry family member. Being an elite in the Church of God still has its rewards.
Original Price: $38,000,000.00
Compared to the average cost for all Private aircraft, which is $496,400, the Gulfstream G450 costs:
Fuel Cost per Nautical mile: $6.072
Fuel cost per seat per nautical mile: $75.90
Compared to the average fuel costs for all Private aircraft, which are $0.58* per nautical mile and 23.79¢* per seat per nautical mile, the Gulfstream G450 costs:
*Assumes a $6 cost per gallon of jet fuel
1 Nautical Mile = 1.15 Miles
Once this was announced on Facebook, the happy-clappy seals starting giving their accolades to this miracle from god.
Not everyone was as excited as the gullible ones
The Church of God a Worldwide Association had an article out recently on the attributes of a true prophet. Now that the Church of God feels it is getting close to the end times Herbert preached about, more and more of them are discussing prophets. Part of that issue might also arose from the fact we have a myriad of fools in the COG who have self appointed themselves as God's end time mouthpiece. From Wadsworth Ohio to Edmond Oklahoma, to Arroyo Grande California, the foolish shepherds are proclaiming their unholy attribute of prophethood.
COGWA listed these qualities of a prophet in the COG community:
Four tests to prove whether a prophet is true
We need to carefully consider God’s Word—the Bible—in order to discern between false and true prophets. The Bible provides four tests to determine the genuineness of a prophet.
1. Does the conduct of the prophet reflect godly character?
2. Do the predictions of the prophet come true?
3. Are the words of the prophet consistent with Scripture?
4. Do the people benefit spiritually from the prophet’s ministry?
Do you know of any man in the Church of God that fits ANY of those criteria? Certainly no COG minister, evangelists or church leader has any of those attributes...well, maybe except for one...
I will give you one guess as to WHO thinks he is the one and only true mouthpiece of God's prophetic word...
It is our very own Almost-arrested Elisha, Elijah, Amos, Joshua, Chief Overseer and the bitter disappointing "son" of Rod Meredith! Who knew????????? Shocking! Right?
Here is what the glorious end time prophet had to say in regards to COGWA's list:
Although COGWA left out some criteria, even based upon the above criteria, there is one person in one of the COGs that meets all those criteria, and he is not part of COGWA, but physically heads up the (improperly named) Continuing Church of God (CCOG).Not only does apostate Thiel claim he is a true prophet, he also make sit know that the knows MORE that COGWA does when it come to prophethood. The delusional self-appointed fool claims he has another import attribute that makes him a true prophet. He dreams dreams! It still boggles my mind that this man is still claiming a nightmare he had over some bad seafood make shim a prophet!
The Bible teaches:6 “Hear now My words:
If there is a prophet among you,
I, the Lord, make Myself known to him in a vision;a
I speak to him in a dream. (Numbers 12:6)
So what is going to happen to those of us who who know Apostate Bob to be a false prophet and mock him regularly? We will not receive a prophet's reward!I had at least two such dreams, and others had dreams, essentially concerning those about me
He says this:
Consider also that Jesus taught:41 He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. (Matthew 10:41)
Apostate and self-appointed Thiel is NOT a prophet. He never has been and will never be one. No one in their right mind should be following this certified liar who self-appointed himself, gave himself all kinds of titles and preaches absurd sermons in front of crooked bookcases, file cabinets, doorways and sheer curtains. Nor does thrusting your big Bible in the air make you a real minister.Jesus is telling His followers that if a true prophet is out there, that they need to follow. Yet, in this Laodicean time (Revelation 3:14-18), most real Christians will not listen to what Jesus said on this and many other matters.
Towards the end of silly screed he has some more Bible verses to quote that he claims talks about himself and his status as prophet:
Apostate Their does NOT have the "sure word of prophecy," never has and never will. No one in there right mind needs to heed the words of this delusional foolish false prophet. There is no "light shining in a dark place" in the improperly named "continuing" Church of God. Every single thing Apostate Thiel utters as "truth" is directly his OWN interpretation of how he WANTS things to be.In the (improperly named) Continuing Church of God:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Peter 1:19-21, KJV)
I can also state as a sure fact that the Holy Spirit is NOT using Elijah Thiel or inspiring him words to speak. Even Rod Meredith saw through the delusional mental meltdown of Amos Thiel years ago and refused to acknowledge Elisha Thiel's self appointed prophethood.
What Apostate Thiel promotes is counterfeit Christianity.
Some believe these may have been Old Testament "Saints" such as Adam and Eve, Moses, Isaiah, Abraham and other notables listed in Hebrews 11. You'd at least think this would be noted and having these folk back might qualify them for some positions of leadership in the early church. This reasoning merely reflects the fact that this story stretched the imaginations of even the early church fathers who also found this tale fantastical.
For several years now Dave Pack has been telling one tall tale after another. His god is constantly giving him so many revelations that he cannot keep track of everything he is saying. He has one superfantabulous revelation and reveals it to his members, then 3-4 weeks later he forgets what he had said and contradicts himself. Dave also has also had so many recent failed prophecies that he can't keep track of what them either.
Dave has been posting scores of sermons aimed at the back-sliding Church of God member in various congregations. These sermons are supposed to be filled with the most astounding information ever available to human kind, then ten sermons later he changes it or deletes stuff. He is now admitting that is what he does.
As we’re preparing all of these transcripts, one of the things we’re doing, brethren, is we’re cutting large swaths of it out wherever there was error and wherever there was any kind of exaggerated emphasis on me that could be offensive. I want all of that…I want to look like a mustard seed through the 49 or 50, 52 different parts of this. There are just some things I want to not say to everybody outside that they don’t need to hear. They don’t need to understand.
I want them to understand this terrible trial they’re going to go through, that they can escape it; how the Kingdom of God will come, and where their part in it is. They don’t need to hear all the error that we’ve had to walk out of through this long series. They don’t need to hear what my role is, or there are just certain things that don’t need to be in it. Partly, to make it shorter and less daunting for even the most serious Bible students, who might say, can I really read all that? The serious ones will and others won’t, and we may break out certain ones for the people who say I don’t want to read them all, and we give them a chance to read certain key ones. The three on the Man of Sin might be such a case—this one, and Part 31, and one other that came a little later.
So, in some of these parts of the series, I speculated, and some of that speculation is being cut out; some will be left in. But we’re going to speculate here.
Of course this is all under the guise that strong meat should not be put forth so that unwashed masses have access to it. They only are able to understand baby pablum. Only "true" COG members have the mental capacity of understand the meatier side of things.
If Dave truly was a prophet of God then he would not care what people thought but would forcefully tell his story that he apparently believes in. But he cannot do so. He is embarrassed. What is even worse is that his little league of man-boys in Wadsworth clap like happy seals at the moment Dave opens his mouth. The never hold him accountable, even though some of them sitting there have to realize Dave is talking out his ass 99% of the time.
This is how Dave Pack and Bob Thiel think:
I’ll just say this. If what I told you does not apply, I, nor any minister I have ever talked to, has the faintest idea what on Earth, Christ was talking about. We just don’t know, and it’s just there for some reason that not a single one of two thousand ministers could have ever known in the past. But you can appreciate that, in light of what I said, if I’m right, you can understand why no one would have ever had a clue what it was talking about. They had no chance to understand. That, not until you had lived through three years of doing what we did and noticed that Paul went three years, and then maybe there’s one more year to go…This translates into:
Even though I do not know what I am talking about and even though I am 100% wrong, you must appreciate my trying.This is the sad state of thinking hat pervades the church to this day. No one holds their ministers accountable. Various COG's never hold the obvious heretics like Pack, Malm, Flurry and Thiel accountable for their lies. "Oh, but they are our brethren, we cannot say anything bad about them." When they do not hold self-appointed liars accountable, then they too end up being lairs. Their inaction allows the hundreds of splinter groups to function today. It allows the sick deviate men to ruin member lives and they do not care. That is what we have so many fools running COG's today. Just look at Thiel, Malm, Pack, Wienland, Cox and Flurry. Can there be 6 more idiotic men in the Church of God today?
"I have an open mind . I am willing to be convinced but I have no firm opinion on it." Notice how the audience does not go crazy because their apologist is willing to say he has his doubts about the passage and everyone (except those not given to critical thinking) does.
Dave Pack continues is spiral decent down into madness. Notice his description of Donald Trump below. Regardless of whatever your stance is on Trump, Dave Pack proves he is certifiably nuts. Dave's stance is in sharp contrast to the unordained and self-appointed foolish false prophet of the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god." Apostate Thiel claims Trump is the harbinger of the persecution. Trump will supposedly stop Elisha Thiel from preaching his asinine message to the world. Since neither of these buffoons vote, their opinions are worthless and irrelevant.
Now, this particular president-elect, literally, is a builder. Arguably one of the greatest single builders the world has ever seen. He is the Herod the Great of the 21st century. He has employed more people…far, far, far and away—than all previous presidents put together—and probably tripled—and you could throw in the presidents, from the south, who were slave owners, if you want to call that employment. It wasn’t, it was slavery. So he understands how to build an economy.When you think of eating and drinking, it’s the way he thinks. He sells his own steaks and wine. And of course, it means there has to be a good climate, because there is planting and reaping. But again, Christ almost, as it were, goes out of His way to describe powerful conditions in play in the economy that were not going to go that way if the fellow in there stayed—or if the woman who wanted to replace him and carry out his social legacy won.Now, in the first 100 days, he has a whole series of things he wants to do. He has stated over and over again he’s going to do them, and all the people around him tell him he’s going to move big, bold and fast…And this is good for the Work in many ways…big—bold—and fast. He wants to take on Obamacare, which is great news for God’s people, but also for the economy.You’ll see higher wages, and people, who are either un- or under-employed are going to find more jobs. He’s going to do some trade deals. Businesses are already reacting, because they know regulations are going to be suppressed. The IRS is going to get off of peoples’ backs. There’ll be enormous tax cuts. Seven categories for the average person will turn into three. Corporate taxes, at 35 percent, are going to crash to 15. They are among the highest in the world…I’ll tell you in a minute why the promises he’s making—he’s going to keep, even though his enemies and the opposition in America is going to do EVERYTHING in their power to stop him. I think even the devil will try to stop him because he’s going to feed prophecy. Obviously, the danger for the brethren—all of you—is that you can begin to understand better why Christ said many will go to sleep. They’ll be unaware, or they’ll get, proverbially, spiritually, or even literally, drunken, because the world is going to go into a party-time the likes of which it has never seen.When you have a mega-billion billionaire, whose name is splashed all over the world, he dwarfs the profile of any other president, probably, whose ever lived. These buildings all have his name. He’s “branded” like nobody’s business. He understands the world’s economy because he’s in it. He’s fearless because he’s walked into all kinds of banks and boardrooms, facing enemies, and every time, he takes them down…He understands that lower taxes are going to drive the economy. He understands the EPA [Environmental Protection Agency] is crushing the farmers, and it’s crushing ranchers in the west. Most of you don’t realize the EPA claims control—on this campus—everywhere there is a puddle after rain, literally, and until that puddle dries out, the EPA does not give up its sovereign control of places where water pools. That’s how bad it’s gotten. He’s going to sweep that aside like a wind pushing away leaves—and he will do it.
He lives in an environment that is so beautiful, he’ll be the only person to ever downsize into the White House. Think about it. He lives in a world of gold and silver and marble and crystal and magnificent rugs and quality materials—and people will identify with him…We’re not talking about an improvement in morality here, but there are a lot of people who’ve not had jobs…The last 50 years has seen it that way.
Everything about Dave Packs always descends back to his favorite subject, money All money in the world belongs to God. Because Dave is God's "chosen one" it is therefore logical that all money in the world belongs to Dave and if all the money in the world belongs to Dave then that means all tithe money in ALL the various Church of God's belongs to Dave. With all of that tithe money coming in, the quicker he can build his auditorium and student center. When he accomplishes this then his "jesus" can return and have a stage to speak from and a dining hall to have his meals prepared in.
Now that Trump has been elected all Americans will soon be getting high paying jobs and therefore his members will now get more money due to raises and bonuses. That extra money will be willingly sent into Dave so he can build his superfantabulous compound in Wadsworth.
Now I’m excited, because, obviously, God’s people can go back to work, and we’re commanded to go to work. So it’s going to benefit the Work. Not only will new people pour into the Work, as I’m describing, but a lot of people who are here are going to start getting jobs, who are un- or under-employed, and wages will start to go up. Taxes will drop—that will all benefit God’s Work on top of the growth. So the Work should begin to boom…we already see it is, but boom in a greater way than it did before. Now again, it means more isolation, which also fits prophecy.But the IRS has been targeting conservative organizations. Banks are going to start opening up and lending more. I talk to a lot of bankers. They have guns pointing at them from all directions. If property values go up, it will benefit God’s people around the world, but I wouldn’t be surprised if our appraisals soon reflect millions more dollars of value in this campus—which was a long-range goal I had and said so, many times—simply because a little time passes, not because we built anything else. Which means the Work can borrow more if need be…But if the value of the campus were not going up, then you couldn’t do that…
From a PCG source:
In classic dance mom style, pushy American parent Stephen Flurry gets into the spirit of the Days of Unleavened Bread by taking to Twitter to boast of his vicarious victory in Irish dancing by posting a tweet of his son Jude coming eighth place in a recent competition. Stephen, “newly-revealed heir to the throne of England” Flurry posts the following:I wonder how many of the rank and file PCG members would be able to reconcile an activity like this during what is supposed to be a week of humble reflection through removing human nature and the spirit of this world which Herbert W Armstrong summed up in the word Competition.In the same week when PCG completed the purchase of a private jet and now Stephen Flurry’s son takes part in a regional dance competition, you have to realistically wonder where the heir-apparent’s spiritual focus has really been.If this was an ordinary PCG member they would be on the receiving end of severe correction from the ministry for having a wrong focus during this pivotal time.Anyway now that Prince Stephen has his own private jet perhaps Jude will lift his game and come seventh next time….1 Cor 13:4 (NKJV) Love … does not parade itself…
Dave has been preaching for a while now about Jesus returning twice in the next 2,000 years. Jesus returns soon to cleanse and rebuild the world, which suffers after a great war, then after he is here for 1,000 years he will resurrect the rest of the saints and then the millennium will happen where Satan will be given a chance to come and deceive the entire world again.
Though be careful though. God is going to send a fake "jesus" the flies around to deceive COG members after they have jumped ship to join the Restore Church of God. Ever the trickster god, he is doing this deliberately to embarrass the COG members.
We actually never had a month like the one we’re having now. A couple of freak occurrences, way back, where a giant bunch of people came with us, kind of…in a cluster…confused our record, or it would be the most growth we’ve ever had.But God is going to work with…He loves His people, and He chastises them. And it’s going to be horribly embarrassing to them—even the survivors—that they were in such terrible condition that God had to send the false Jesus, that would rock the world and sit in that church! No! Put him in the Presbyterian church! Make him a Methodist! Surely, he’ll sit in Rome, right? No. No…Because the fraud wouldn’t work for either of the groups. The one I’ve told you about this week, or the group I’m going to tell you about next week. It’s got to be extreme, powerful fraud, and at the same time, wonderfully help your people. But, oh, is it incredibly embarrassing.
It is an interesting contrast to read the absolute putrid drivel coming our of the deluded false prophet Almost-arrested Elisha, Elijah, Amos, Joshua, doubly blessed but not ordained, dream weaver, second witless witness and bitter disappointing "son" to Rod Meredith, Bob Thiel and the Chief Pharisee James Malm about how they face persecution for "boldly" preaching their messages of bondage. Even United Church of God, Living Church of God, Philadelphia Church of God and the Restored Church of God cry about persecution and being constantly attacked by "satan." these foolish men have no idea what persecution is as they sit in the warm safe homes in 100% safe environments which allow them to preach and print their daily piles of pig slop.
These lying fools do not know what real persecution is. All of these men are weak little milquetoasts who cry at the slighted whiff of anyone disagreeing with them. "Oh woe is me, I am being persecuted. Oh what will I do? Gary and and Dennis are making mocking me and called me a fool! Woe! Oh woe is me!"
Contrast this to the Coptic Christians in Egypt today. Last week two horrific bombs were planted in their churches that killed scores of people. Hundreds were injured. These people face daily persecution. Real persecution, unlike the COG version of persecution. Then, one week later, on Easter day, they came out to put faith into action with a trust in God that was more important than personal safety. Can you imagine any of the pissants leading a COG doing such a thing? They would be cowering in their basements thumbing through their big thick Moffatt Bibles looking for some kind of new revelation that they can bastardize as new truth.