Feast Tour of LCG Homes of the Elite

October 13, 2016, 5:14 pm

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An LCG source has been busy. Here are the homes of some of the elite of the Living Church of God. Lil'Jimmy and Peter Nathan have the largest homes. Gaylyn Bonjour is a nondescript older home, not what one would except for the man who doubly blessed the greatest COG leader in human history...sorry Dave.

Most of the homes are located in Mint Hill and Matthews, North Carolina.

Dick Ames

Gaylyn Bonjour

Wyatt Ciesielka

Gary Ehman

Ken Frank

Mike Germano

Mario Hernandez

Jim Meredith

Rod Meredith

Peter Nathan

Dexter Wakefield

Doug Winnail condo

Missing is Gerald Weston's new home.

Now that the Feast has been moved to Charlottee, this might be a good time to organize a bus tour of the Living Church of God elite. That was always popular in Pasadena.

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Dead Pool

October 14, 2016, 8:02 am

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One of Herbert Armstrong's biggest trophies when he was buying land in Pasadena was when he acquired the Hulett C Merritt Estate. Merritt was a multimillionaire by the time he was 18.

Merritt’s father had discovered the Mesabi Iron Range in Minnesota. Young Hulett spent a year in a cast with an injured hip but graduated at the head of 800 students at a business college. He started selling real estate in Duluth, his hometown. By 18, he was a multimillionaire, having developed Texas City, in Texas, and owning a large interest in iron mines and railroads. Pasadena History: Remembering Hulett C Merritt

Merritt's house was ahead of its time when he built it. He had a pool installed underground to the left of the house.

That pool ended up being part of the Frontier Room, which was a student lounge for many years. The pool was also where many hundreds Ambassador students and church members were baptized.

Now it has been put to better use. Now the living dead can use it for their caskets in the latest American Horror Story: Hotel on FX.

Quite a fitting epitaph for a dying church.

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Foundational Fallacies of Creationism

October 14, 2016, 9:24 am

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Last evening I had the privilege of meeting and talking with Aron Ra on book tour here in Portland. I have been asked to share this by Gary.

Aron Ra, for those who may not recall, countered Dave Pack's 12 part series on why Creationism and the Biblical account of creation is correct with a devastating rebuttal of his own 12 part series on why Dave doesn't know what he's talking about and is merely parroting old and ill-informed arguments. Aron mentioned he has three more goes at Dave Pack in the works.

"Religious fundamentalists and biblical literalists present any number of arguments that attempt to disprove evolution. Those with a sympathetic ear often fail to critically examine these creationist claims, leading to an ill informed public , and perhaps more troubling, ill-advised public policy. As Aron Ra makes clear, however, every single argument deployed by creationists in their attacks on evolution is founded on fundamental scientific, religious and historical falsehoods--all of them. Among their most popular claims is that evolution is a religion, that there are no transitional species and that there are no beneficial mutations. Yet, as the evidence and the data plainly show, each of these claims is unequivocally and demonstrably false. There is simply no truth to creationism whatsoever, and the entire enterprise rests on a foundation of falsehoods. This exposes the worst of these lies and should be ready by all who honestly care about following the evidence no matter where it might lead in the pursuit of the truth."

On a personal note, I realize how difficult it is for those given to Biblical explanations rather than ongoing scientific discovery to even want to consider that their Sunday School version of life and meaning may be incorrect. Religion discourages critical thinking as witnessed by any number of scriptures that scorn human reasoning or knowing. Sitting down before that fact as a little child, as noted, and being willing to follow it into whatever abyss it leads one , or you will learn nothing that is actually true, is a difficult journey and there be few that find it. The reason for this , in my view, is the fact that religion is formulated to address the fears our knowledge of our deaths provoke. "What's going to happen to me when I die?" Religion allays those fears. I have no personal problem with being the current end result of millions of years of hominid evolution and that death is death. It makes the present time in life precious beyond measure. Many true believers are so heaven , or Kingdom bound, they are of no earthly use it seems. In the Churches of God, offering a cup of cool water to one in need is a chore for others it seems. We have to do the work! And the reward is always a just around the corner and soon to come that lingers and proving to be of no earthly or present value in fact.

"Diogenes, you can retire now! Aron Ra, a remarkable figure in many ways, is an indefatigable opponent of hokum, whether religious or pseudoscientific in nature...In this book Aron trains his analytical guns on "scientific" creationism. Do you think this is a matter of beating a dead Eohippus? It is not, because pseudoscience and superstition never sleep, and the proponents never tire of seeking ( and gaining ) government support to turn back the clock and to cripple science education precisely at the time our great country can least afford such charlatanism."

Robert M. Price, coauthor of Evolving out of Eden

The evolution of life on this planet over the past 4 billion years is a fact and all the "yea but.."s and "you'll think differently when you are cast into the Lake of Fire" aside, is a wonderful and amazing story that is constantly unfolding by good science done well. We have hundreds of transitional fossils and "missing links" to tell the story of how we and the universe came to be. It is difficult for humans to take themselves out of the middle of the equation and demand that there must be "a purpose" for it all. It just is , I understand , is not what most want to hear or believe, but again, beliefs are not truths and wish something to be true does not make it true anymore than the Bible , on Creationism ,is true because it says it is true.

Our parents were taught the Milky Way Galaxy WAS the Universe That our Universe actually contains up to 2 trillion galaxies should give us pause to reconsider our centrality and purpose for it, as uncomfortable as that might be having been taught we are the purpose for it all.

I would encourage anyone to never be intimidated or even discouraged by wherever real study and real facts take one. It is common to think , "but that is so disillusioning," to which I have always said, "Who wants to live with illusions?" I have since learned that many if not most are quite content with illusions.

But for those who at least want to be fair in their pursuit of reality, Foundational Fallacies of Creationism would prove to be an outstanding resource for the challenge. While Dave Pack made one of the biggest public mistakes of his life presenting his archaic and out of date series on Creationism, he did provide an excellent opportunity to show all of these fallacies in play for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Never be threatened by what is. Be amazed and grateful to be alive and conscious of the wonder of it all.

Foundational Fallacies of Creationism
Well worth your time....If you really just ever wanted to know what is.

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Catholics Called Early COG Members "Vampires." Now Satan Uses The Walking Dead To Desensitize Present Day COG Members

October 14, 2016, 9:35 pm

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The WWCG Archives had this turkey up on the Facebook pages of the Kitchen clan's personal pages. Apparently the evil Catholics called early church members Vampires because they kept Passover. Now Satan uses The Walking Dead, and Vampire movies and TV shows to desensitize the COG and the public so that when the Great Whore and the Pope rise up along with Germany to kill all true believers, the rest of the world will stand by and watch us all die with delight.

Plus, whoever wrote this piece of crap needs to educate themselves on history and not swallow the putrid mess of Armstrong, Meredith, Hoeh, Pack, Thiel, Malm, Blackwell and others who have lied to the church over the decades about the Waldenses and others.

Revelation 12:5-6 She brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations ... [He]was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (6) And the woman fled into the wilderness...
Now we get into the Middle Ages. This happened along in the Middle Ages for 1260 years, where the Church had to flee. They had to meet underground, and secretly; and many times they had to flee: The time of the Waldenses, and of Peter Waldo, and of other leaders of the Church through those Middle Age years.

Despite it being a proven fact that the Waldenses were NOT Sabbath keepers, various COG groups still promote the lie.

Now we get into the Middle Ages. This happened along in the Middle Ages for 1260 years, where the Church had to flee. They had to meet underground, and secretly; and many times they had to flee: The time of the Waldenses, and of Peter Waldo, and of other leaders of the Church through those Middle Age years.

Rome was hunting brethren down at the bequest of the Catholic Church who led it with bridle & reins. The Catholic Church condemned anyone partaking in the custom of the "Passover" to be anathema, and the Roman governments followed behind, hunting the keepers of the "Passover" down to be tortured and martyred. "Easter" was their sacred day and it was commanded to be kept by the Catholic Church or suffer torture and death by the Roman armies.

Catholic Monks began spreading horror stories around about the true Church of God. They accused them of "drinkers of blood", and "eaters of flesh"(those who kept the Passover). And they accused them of being those who hid in caves, and those who came out only at night(The true Church was fleeing for their lives from the persecuting armies, lived in rags, and came out only at night to gather food and to congregate together and lived as vagabonds and hid in caves and catacombs),

The stories and folklore about "the walking dead" who "ate upon the flesh of men" who "drank blood", called VAMPIRES began to be circulated by the Catholic Church.

Who every wrote the following commien knows noting about church history or history in general. Of course COG members eat this kind of crap up as if it is gospel truth. Everything is a conspiracy of satan trying to destroy the church.

The Catholic priests began selling crucifixes and holy water to their congregants, to protect them from such individuals. This is where the holy water and crucifixes were popularized during the middle ages.

Ever wonder how they got the means to kill a "Vampire"? They speak of Vlad the Impaler as being the origin of Dracula, but his story reveals the origin of the "stake through the heart". And it was this punishment to be used against the "VAMPIRES"(what they called true Christians).

And they stirred the fear up so great in their parishes, that the people if seeing such practices, such as keeping the Sabbath, or the Passover, or other practices of the true Church of God, would immediately alert the authorities, and members of God's true Church would be captured, tortured and murdered.

In this end time, when Satan is waxing angrier and angrier, we can see certain things being promoted and celebrated.

Movies about "Vampires" and such, was folklore created against the true Church of God by the Catholic Church. It is one deception, that false accuses God's people as worshipers of the Devil, when in fact those who created such stories are worshiping the devil and do not know it. That is Satan's way.

People celebrate it. They revel in such stories.

But as we study history, we find that such stories was told to scare the people into helping the authorities hunt down our brethren in Christ.

Shows like "Walking dead" is popular, but such stories find root in the true story of our Church, and the murder and torturing of our brethren. How the head should be cut off(our brethren was beheaded for Christ's name sake). How, being based on false stories of the Catholic Church about those who professed baptism and the Passover(and look at what baptism represents).

Immersion into a watery "grave" is a deep spiritual symbolism which signifies the actual, LITERAL BURYING of the old self – YOU – the way you HAVE BEEN, and the resurrection of a NEW YOU – now conquered by God, surrendered to God, meekly and humbly CHILD-like in your obedience and TRUST in Him as your Living Saviour.

Hence, "the Walking dead" title they called God's people.

Satan has created and is using these things against God's true Church. Ever wonder why such stories exist? Ever wonder why in this end time, where evil waxes worst, such stories are popularized?

So remember brethren...what you will find out more and more, is that Satan is popularizing everything he can that he created against God's true Church. Are we reveling and enjoying such stories? Are we entertained by such stories that were used to martyr our brethren in Christ? Something you must be careful about, and something to pray about.

We truly have to come out of this world, as this world is being ruled and led by Satan the Devil. Because, if we stay and do not come out of this world, and stop joining in to watch this rotten entertainment of this world, then we will be "spewed out" under those whom the Devil will used in the coming Great tribulation, and such stories will be insignificant compared to the horrors that awaits.

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New Film Exposing Damage Done By Worldwide Church God and Its Splinter Groups

October 15, 2016, 1:55 pm

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Splintered by the WCG

See above link for more information.

This new film project is by people who had ties to the Philadelphia Church of God and suffered under its harsh regime. There are literally tens of thousands of horror stories about life in the church that need to be heard and shared. You can do this anonymously or on film. Those who had had families and lives ripped apart by the larger splinter groups, Philadelphia Church of God, Restored Church of God, Living Church of God, United Church of God (and others), need to let the world know how truly dangerous these groups are to the mental and spiritual lives of their members.

From the marriages broken up by sick doctrines; to children and adults dying due to lack of proper medical care; to thousands of suicides over the decades; to its ingrained racism, homophobia and misogyny; to those stalked, harassed and raped; to the pedophiles protected by church leaders; to the murders in the Living Church of God dues to the lies of Rod Meredith.

The church is debased at its core and ultimately is incapable of offering any hope to true believers. No matter how much all the Malm's, Thiel's, Pack's, Flurry's, and others try to keep the lipstick perfect on the pig, it still ends up wallowing in its own filth.

This is a campaign created to expose the WCG and its splinter groups. Founded in 1934 the radio church of god started out as a humble new spin on modern Christianity. However this simple radio church would soon pave the way for decades of heartache, pain and confusion. Throughout the 1930's, 40's and 50's the group capitalized on false predictions and the threat of war. Which changed this radio church into a powerful organization that pocketed on the fears of many.

In the 1960's this group started calling itself the Worldwide Church of God – WCG. This organization gained thousands of followers and millions in member based revenue. Members traded obedience to the church and would submit to the groups will and rules. Which were: Do not work on Saturday, Do not seek medical treatment, Divorce your spouse if deemed fit, Give 10 to 30% of all income to the the group. Just to name a few stipulations.

All in exchange for a promised soon to come “end times” event. Convincing its members of a "place of safety". Where members would be protected from doom and later be transformed into god and begin a new age. One in which members would rule the earth and enforce god's will upon the world. However after the death of their leader (Armstrong) in the late 1980's the group started to fall apart. By the 1990's the group shattered into 10 or so splinter groups. Many countless lives were and still continue to be disturbed by these entities.

Complaints and Grievances

Many of us have faced countless unresolved issues with the splinter groups of the WCG. Including defamation of character, emotional distress and therapy, medical endangerment, the breaking down of families, loss of loved ones. As well as reckless endangerment of minors and indoctrination.

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New Documentary Film Exposing Damage Done By Worldwide Church God and Its Splinter Groups In The Works

October 15, 2016, 1:55 pm

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Splintered by the WCG

See above link for more information.

This is a campaign created to expose the WCG and its splinter groups. Founded in 1934 the radio church of god started out as a humble new spin on modern Christianity. However this simple radio church would soon pave the way for decades of heartache, pain and confusion. Throughout the 1930's, 40's and 50's the group capitalized on false predictions and the threat of war. Which changed this radio church into a powerful organization that pocketed on the fears of many.

In the 1960's this group started calling itself the Worldwide Church of God – WCG. This organization gained thousands of followers and millions in member based revenue. Members traded obedience to the church and would submit to the groups will and rules. Which were: Do not work on Saturday, Do not seek medical treatment, Divorce your spouse if deemed fit, Give 10 to 30% of all income to the the group. Just to name a few stipulations.

All in exchange for a promised soon to come “end times” event. Convincing its members of a "place of safety". Where members would be protected from doom and later be transformed into god and begin a new age. One in which members would rule the earth and enforce god's will upon the world. However after the death of their leader (Armstrong) in the late 1980's the group started to fall apart. By the 1990's the group shattered into 10 or so splinter groups. Many countless lives were and still continue to be disturbed by these entities.

Complaints and Grievances

Many of us have faced countless unresolved issues with the splinter groups of the WCG. Including defamation of character, emotional distress and therapy, medical endangerment, the breaking down of families, loss of loved ones. As well as reckless endangerment of minors and indoctrination.

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Massive Worldwide Earthquake Fails to Happen and the Excuses Start Flying

October 15, 2016, 8:15 pm

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A massive worldwide earthquake was prophesied to happen on October 11/12 that would have destroyed most of humanity. As usual, this Church of God false prophet was wrong. A person would think after 80 some years of these asinine prophecies failing that people would keep their mouths shut, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

It is now late in the evening on October 15th and no major quake has happened, other than the usual 6.0 earthquakes that hit the Papua, New Guinea region on a regular basis. No huge issues there to report either.

Here is the excuse that the itstimecog.com came out with:

Even with this excuse there is not one thing claimed below that is correct.

UPDATED OCT. 15
Please pass this around.

I was in grievous error when I attributed the earthquake of Revelation 6:12 and 14 to the Day of Atonement.

That was a mistake on my part as the Day of Atonement actually depicts God sealing those He has chosen, it does NOT depict Him taking them into the wilderness.

In Revelation 11:1, we find John being given the task of “measuring” the Church in its entirety. The Day of Atonement is when that judgment is finalized.

This is one of the decree’s of that judgment: Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Let’s delve into this a little deeper as these also depict events that transpire on the Day of Atonement.

Revelation 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:

Verses 15:6-7 depicts the angels about to pour out the Great Tribulation.

Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

Verse 8 should rock you to the core. Why? Because once the judgment is complete on the Day of Atonement, “no man was able to enter into the temple”. In other words, you’re cut off from God and Revelation 22:11 is in effect.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Once that judgment is complete, Christ said He would come quickly. How quickly?

I do firmly believe that the Holy Days depict prophetic events and the Holy Days just after the Day of Atonement are the Feast of Tabernacles.

The Feast of Tabernacles depicts God’s people leaving their homes and dwelling “where God places His name”. Part of that depiction is that God will dwell with His people.

Does that sound a lot like Christ returning to gather His people and taking them into the wilderness?

Notice what He says in Luke regarding the start of the Great Tribulation: Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Obviously, if one is to “stand before the Son of Man” in the place where they “escape all these things”, both Christ and the chosen must be in the wilderness.

Now, about the earthquakes. The one spoken of in Revelation 16:18 and 20, happens at Christ’s return to conquer the nations.

Revelation 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

Revelation 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

The earthquake in Revelation 6:12 and 14 also depict Christ returning but with a different intent. He is coming to gather His chosen, who in turn will be protected from all the topographical changes and horrors, that take place during the Great Tribulation.

Let's move on to other topics.

Yes, lets move quickly on hoing that people will forget the latest COG lie. Typical.

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COG Prophet Claims that During the Feast God Requires You to Attend a Church Service or Watch it Online.

October 16, 2016, 7:48 pm

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God watches his doubly blessed apostle online, as you should too!

Almost Arrested, Doubly Blessed, Elisha, Elijah, Joshua, Amos, Apostle, End time witness, world reknown Mayan authority, Chief Overseer, Prophet and Naturoherb peddler (a blogger who claims COG ties, but who makes a lot of inaccurate prideful statements, improper accusations, and biblically- impossible speculations) once again has posted more nonsense directed towards those few people attending his cultic festival site.

Look at his convoluted reasoning on how he interprets scripture. This of course is the standard for Church of God false ministers. Thiel, like most of the others, twist things around to conform to his theologically bankrupt understanding.

What should you do if you wish to obey God and keep this festival?
If you are at or near one of the Feast of Tabernacles’ Sites for 2015 (sic) you should attend church services every day.

But if you are not able to physically attend those locations, what should you do?

The Bible teaches that the children of Israel were to have offerings for every day of the Feast (Leviticus 23:36. And while we in the Continuing Church of God do take up offerings on the First Day of the Feast and the Last Great Day, we do not take up financial offerings on the other days. But one way for you to fulfill what God expects is for you to attend or at least watch church services each day.

The doubly blessed apostate then uses a verse by Paul to justify requiting people to watch his pathetic sermons online:

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. (Romans 12:1-2)

Do you see in that verse any directive to sit and listen to a live version of a false prophet or even to watch one online every day during the Feast?

This is how he twists that verse to fit his perverse teachings:

Viewing services each day is a way for you to offer yourself as a living sacrifice which is your reasonable service. We have sermons posted at the www.ccog.org website and past year’s sermons posted at the link Feast of Tabernacles’ Sites for 2015. If you are not able to physically attend, hopefully you will be able to watch at least one sermon and other message every day.

Just imagine sitting there for EIGHT DAYS watching Apostate Thiel wave his Bible and arms in the air as if he has any authority or wisdom to impart. The lake of fire would be a welcome relief to listening to one of Thiel's sermons.

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The Feast is here! Are you sleeping in a tent in your living room?????

October 17, 2016, 12:32 pm

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Almost Arrested, Doubly Blessed, Elisha, Elijah, Joshua, Amos, Apostle, End time witness, world renown Mayan authority, Chief Overseer, Prophet and Naturoherb peddler, Bob thiel (a blogger who claims COG ties, but who makes a lot of inaccurate prideful statements, improper accusations, and biblically-impossible speculations) has now weighted in on how you should be keeping the Feast when it comes to temporary dwellings.

Those that stay home during the Feast are now being told to put tents up IN their homes or their back yards and stay in them for 8 days. The apostate leader of the falsely called Continuing Church of God is not the only one to preach this nonsense. Other COGlet ministers have also said the same in the past. All of the continual jumping though hoops in order to please the gods of these men has to be exhausting to their members.

The Feast of Tabernacles has begun around the world. Here is a link to a sermon for today: Christianity and the Feast of Tabernacles.

What should you do if you wish to obey God?

Those who can will travel (Deuteronomy 14:23-26) go to a Feast site. If you are at, near, or can get to one of the Feast of Tabernacles’ Sites for 2016 you should attend church services there every day.

But if you are not able to physically attend those locations, what should you do?

Those who cannot may wish to consider the possibility to not sleep in their houses during the time of the Feast. If they are physically and financially able, they may wish to try to sleep in some type of temporary dwelling like a hotel, motel, camper, or a tent (including perhaps one in one’s own home). In ancient Israel, those who did not travel (as well as native Israelites that did) made ‘booths’ of branches on top of their roofs (Leviticus 23:40) and slept in them for the seven days of the Feast (Leviticus 23:42), and some slept in them for the entire eight days (though the Bible only mentions seven days). Staying in ‘temporary dwellings,’ of whatever sort, helps convey that this age is temporal and a new millennial age is coming.

Since the feast is not required of the new covenant, why waste the money on a hotel or a tent for the living room? You can put the money to better use in the year and take your family on a real vacation which does not include hours and hours of mind numbingly BAD sermons from the likes of Thiel, Mario Hernandez, Rod Meredith, Vic Kubik, Stevie Flurry and others.

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Mario Hernandez: Brethren, we are on the brink of going to Petra! What hurdles do you need to jump in order to get there?

October 17, 2016, 4:34 pm

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Petra is still alive and well in the Living Church of God, even though they will usually scramble to deny it when you really push them on it.

In the first 5 minutes you will see that the beast power and the united Europe is on the verge of uniting ten nations to force their will on the rest of the world! "Brethren we are on the brink!" It is the same load of bullshit that the prophecy nuts in the church have been vomiting out for decades.

Mario is one of the biggest obnoxious jerks that Living Church of God has in its ministry. No man can be more puffed up at his magnificence than Mario. He has been this way since his days in Pasadena where he thought was the most educated man that HQ had. LCG members find Mario to be as boring as Almost Arrested Bob Thiel. It is amazing how LCG has coddled so many of these foolish men.

Here is a barf bag if you make through the entire 1:20 minute sermon! Imagine siting through 1:20 minutes listening to this bullshitter.

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Living Church of God Building a Cult Compound in Peru For Its Members

October 17, 2016, 10:45 pm

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From an LCG member:

Living Church of God is working to build a compound in Peru for its church members. Notice that the church is not asking members to not send in any more money. Two guesses as to why...its cutting into the funds that church member should be sending into he church. We can't have that now, can we?

Cerro de Pasco is a city that is dying due to a mine that has been collapsing and poisoning the land around the town.

In 2008, Peru’s Congress passed Law No. 29293, calling for the resettlement of the entire population of Cerro de Pasco, a city of 70,000. But as Mr. Orue notes, the Peruvian government failed to devise a process to accomplish that, so the law has largely been ignored. While many residents have resigned themselves to what Mr. Orue calls a “doomed future,” more have succumbed and sold their plots to the Peruvian mining company. A Mine Erodes An Andean City

Living Church of God writes:

Cerro de Pasco, Peru Relocation Project UpdatePlans for the Cerro de Pasco, Peru emergency relocation are moving ahead! To date, we have received about $265,000 which includes some funds from the Church’s Disaster Relief Fund. Architectural plans have been completed, land acquired, a contractor has been selected and a non-profit entity, “Asociación para el desarrollo integral Villa Esperanza,” has been formed in Peru to receive the funds. Construction will be monitored by our minister, Sr. Aaron Bravo and his son, Maximilano. We expect to see construction beginning soon and we will keep you up to date on the progress!

Enough funds are now available to build the central hall and some of the houses, and the rest of the houses will be constructed as funds become available. In order to avoid putting an undue financial burden on the rest of the Church, we hope to raise the balance of the funds from sources outside of the Church. More contributions are not needed from LCG members until further notice.

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The Pathetic State of the Feast of Tabernacles in the Churches of God

October 19, 2016, 7:25 pm

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In a recent The Journal News of the Churches of God there is a page dedicated to 227 listed Feast of Tabernacles sites for 2016. These 227 listed sites are those that agreed to post information in The Journal, many others do not.

Herbert Armstrong could never have imagined that 30 years after his death that hundreds and hundreds of harlot daughter splinter groups would have split off the Worldwide Church of God. Each of these groups claiming that they and they alone have the "truth." There are so many versions of the "truth" out there that even their members no longer know what is "true."

Many of these groups are holding simultaneous festival sites in the same cities. Some cities have five to seven different groups and none of them willing to gather together. Many prohibit members from attending with other groups and some groups post guards at doors to keep the Laodiceans out.

If the Feast of Tabernacles is supposed to be a "foretaste of the kingdom of God," as many of them believe, then who wants to be part of such a divisive kingdom filled with hundreds of splits?

Hundreds of these groups still believe in the myth of Petra as the final place of training. Can you image when all of these groups descend upon the country of Jordan at the same time and run towards Petra what a mess it will be when they all try and squeeze through the "narrow gate!"

Imagine Meredith, Thiel, Malm, Pack, Flurry, Kubik and others as they all start arguing over who is the rightful true church and who will be in charge. Who's doctrines will be enforced? Who will be the unifying super personality? Bob Thiel? Dave Pack? Ron Weinland? Gerald Weston? Stevie Flurry?

What an appalling mess!

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Ron Weinland: Men's Ties Are Cutting Off Circulation To His Followers Brains Causing Them to Not Understand His Sermons

October 20, 2016, 10:22 am

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The world will soon be coming to an end. Nuclear war, famine, disease, rampaging armies, drought, slavery and so many more fun things that are constantly waiting around the corner for those in the Church of God. This is particularly true in Ron Weinland's cult. He and his kinky second witness wife will soon be transported to Jerusalem where they will proclaim Ron's message to the world where they will then be slaughtered and left to rot for 3 1/2 days in the streets of Jerusalem.

This past week God's most magnificent prophet to ever walk this earth made a declaration that is important for these end times.

It seems that many of the men in his little cult are wearing neckties that are too tight. These evil tight ties are cutting off circulation to then men's heads so that that they do not pay attention in church. These poor men are strangling themselves and thus cannot understand Ron's sermons.

Ronald Weinland October 8 2016

“what I’ve been trying to help people to understand during the summer months, when I’m visiting different areas, is that you can honor God by change in some of these things, because this is going to be changed in the Millennium. People aren’t going to be wearing ties around their neck cutting off the blood flow so that you can’t get things out of the sermon like you should be. It’s not natural. It’s not the way it should be. So, anyway, but as a whole, when it’s cold, we’re still going to continue with that tradition until it’s changed at that time. But we’re starting a process now that in the summer months when it’s in its 80’s outside. Just coming back and forth, we have to travel long distances in many cases and just the travel and being in and out of the heat like that can take its wear and tear on people. So again, please feel comfortable in wearing that which is nice, in other words, as far as a short-sleeved shirt if you want, but again, it should be with dress slacks, like with suits.”

Ronald Weinland: still not cutting off the blood flow to his head in this latest sermon (I’m not sure its making a difference) and making sure that he can get things out of the sermon like you should be.

The new enemy of the PKG – Ties! He makes sure we focus on the important things when the world is about to end. From False Prophet Ron Weinland

Just more proof on how incredibly stupid Armstrongism is becoming.

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Dingy Wade Cox Serves Notice on Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton

October 20, 2016, 11:54 pm

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Leave it to a non-voting narcassitic Church of God crackpot to lecture U.S. Presidential candidates on what he thinks they need to hear. Like many COG members, Wade Cox feels he is an authority on the political process, even though he can't vote here and refuses to vote in his own country due to the idiotic "rules" he has set up in his little cult.

As if either Trump or Clinton will listen to this windbag!

Donald J Trump take notice that this is the judgment of the Elders of the Body of Christ in the Last Days. We have forwarded this as a notice to your opponent Hillary Rodham Clinton. You have our support whilst you behave ethically and morally. This is our notice to your opponent. Should this continue the US will come under the judgment and wrath of God.

Notice: This is the New Moon of the Eighth Month of 39/120. We serve notice on the candidate for president for the US in November 2016 Hillary Rodham Clinton that what you do is against God's Law. Should you be elected, God will deal with you and the people of the US for their sin. The major ethical and moral issue you face is not only the matters of your corruption but also your position on Abortion and Infanticide. Facebook page

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Things you can't do on the Last Great Day (Feast of the Eighth Day for the Special Highly Favored Chosen Ones)

October 21, 2016, 8:55 am

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The Chief Pharisee who prostrates himself at his idol the law, has laid down his own "law" for his followers:

The Feast of the Ingathering of Nations – also called Tabernacles – will begin at sunset ending 16 Oct and last from 17 Oct to the end of the seventh and last great day of the Feast of Tabernacles at sunset ending 23 Oct. The first day of the seven day Feast of Tabernacles is a High Holy Day.

The Feast of the Eighth Day will begin at sunset ending 23 Oct and end at sunset ending 24 Oct.

We are to use the day preceding the weekly Sabbaths and the annual High Holy Days to properly prepare, including cooking – because no work of any kind is to be done on any High Holy Day or weekly Sabbath – including traveling or cooking and the buying of food and drink. That means NO paying bills, going out to restaurants and traveling on the Feast of the Eighth Day either. James Malm

Has there ever been such miserable little man and splinter group as this one?

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Self Care and Forgiveness

October 21, 2016, 8:56 am

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Sometimes, perhaps, and even here on Banned, it is good to pause and rise a bit higher than just sharing experiences or offering opinions about the pain, hurt, anger and not wishing the still abusive, self absorbed, theologically challenged and plainly unstable leadership of the remaining Splits, Splinters and Sliver Churches of God well in their abusive and ignorant fake ministries.

Everyone that visits Banned has a story and it is not a happy one. Banned provides an outlet for moving along in the process of recovery and learning what it is that we wish we had known or done when we didn't know it or what to do. Banned also provides a safe place for those still rather trapped in their splinter to get a perspective on their church and its leadership they certainly aren't going to get in Sabbath Services with the hope that they can exit in their own time and for their own good reasons. There are even a few zealots who come to banned to chide us for everything from a lack of faith to lying about what really is in the splinters. So be it...

As well, the utter theological stupidity of most of the splinter leadership need be continually exposed because these untrained "Mere Bible Readers" as I choose to call them, are not only ridiculous in their teachings but dangerous in their personalities.

But at the end of the day, everyone who comes here, if one is ever going to actually recover from the experience and live a quality life in the actual present , which is all we ever really have, the past and the future being only memories or anxieties in our heads and not real, then forgiving someone for something is probably going have to be part of our experience as well.

Our own quality of life, whether we like it or not, depends on rising to the experience with whatever degree of forgiveness one can muster . Someone once told me when I was in the midst of what I suppose could only be called a personal pity party, "You know, those people are probably out to lunch having a great time and not thinking one bit about you or what they have done." Um....yeah, I know. Somehow it helped me regain the concept of taking care of me and forgetting about them. But that takes skill , determination and understanding how and why forgiveness is not just a way to cope but actually the only real way to keep moving for your own good sake and the sake of those you love and who love you.

So...let me offer to us all the higher thoughts of others than just "they done me wrong" with the hope they can make one's experience here at Banned more mature and positive as we sort through the ashes.

If one feels this is not in keeping with the spirit or intent of Banned, then you'll have to forgive me.

"Let's get one thing straight: Forgiving is not something you do for someone else. It is not even something you do because you SHOULD, according to the standards of religious belief or human decency. Forgiving is something that you do for yourself. It is one way of becoming the person you were created to be--and fulfilling God's dream of you is the only way to true wholeness and happiness. You NEED to forgive so that you can move forward with life. An unforgiven injury binds you to a time and place someone else has chosen; it holds you trapped in a past moment and in old feelings."

Carol Luebering - Finding A Way To Forgive (article, CareNotes)

"You can forgive someone almost anything. But you cannot tolerate everything...We don't have to tolerate what people do just because we forgive them for doing it.

Forgiving heals us personally. To tolerate everything only hurts us all in the long run."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"When we forgive evil we do not excuse it, we do not tolerate it, we do not smother it.

We look the evil full in the face, call it what it is, let its horror shock and stun and enrage us,

and only then do we forgive it."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive andForget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"The problem with revenge is that it never gets what it wants; it never evens the score. Fairness never comes. The chain reaction set off by every act of vengeance always takes its unhindered course. It ties both the injured and the injurer to an escalator of pain...Why do family feuds go on and on?...the reason is simple: no two people, no two families, ever weigh pain on the same scale."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"The one who pursues revenge should dig two graves."

Allen C. Guelzo - Fear Of Forgiving (article, Christianity Today,

February 8, 1993) Hurts We Don't Deserve

"It is potentially dangerous if pastoral counselors insist on a client's withholding

forgiveness until the other repents. We can easily imagine a devastated client who is

trapped in bitterness or even hatred because of the legalistic requirement

that the other must repent.

The client's psychological well-being is now dependent on the other's response."

George Herbert -

"Sometimes choices are made in the name of forgiveness while what is occurring isn't forgiveness at all. It is important not to confuse being forgiving with denying your own feelings, needs, and desires. Forgiving doesn't mean being passive and staying in a job or a relationship that clearly doesn't work for you or is abusive. It is important that you are clear about your boundaries. What is acceptable for you? If you are willing to allow unacceptable behavior again and again in the name of 'forgiveness,' you are more than likely using 'forgiveness' as an excuse not to take responsibility for taking care of yourself or as a way to avoid making changes."

Robin Casarjian - Forgiveness: A Bold Choice For A Peaceful Heart

None of us wants to admit that we hate someone...When we deny our hate we detour around the crisis of forgiveness. We suppress our spite, make adjustments, and make believe we are too good to be hateful. But the truth is that we do not dare to risk admitting the hate we feel because we do not dare to risk forgiving the person we hate."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"We attach our feelings to the moment when we were hurt, endowing it with immortality. And we let it assault us every time it comes to mind. It travels with us, sleeps with us, hovers over us while we make love, and broods over us while we die. Our hate does not even have the decency to die when those we hate die--for it is a parasite sucking OUR blood, not theirs. There is only one remedy for it. [forgiveness]

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"You will know that forgiveness has begun when you recall those who hurt you

and feel the power to wish them well."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"Their pain [the injurer's pain at having injured you] and your pain create the point and counterpoint for the rhythm of reconciliation. When the beat of their pain is a response to the beat of yours, they have become truthful in their feelings...they have moved a step closer to a truthful reunion."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"...Forgiving is not having to understand. Understanding may come later, in fragments, an insight here and a glimpse there, after forgiving."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"The rule is: we cannot really forgive ourselves unless we look at the failure

in our past and call it by its right name."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"If we say that monsters [people who do terrible evil] are beyond forgiving, we give them a power they should never have...they are given the power to keep their evil alive in the hearts of those who suffered most. We give them power to condemn their victims to live forever with the hurting memory of their painful pasts. We give the monsters the last word."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"With a little time, and a little more insight, we begin to see both ourselves and our enemies in humbler profiles. We are not really as innocent as we felt when we were first hurt. And we do not usually have a gigantic monster to forgive; we have a weak, needy, and somewhat stupid human being. When you see your enemy and yourself in the weakness and silliness of the humanity you share, you will make the miracle of forgiving a little easier."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"We forgive freely or we do not really forgive at all."

Lewis B. Smedes - Forgive and Forget: Healing the Hurts We Don't Deserve

"Gandhi was right: if we all live by 'an eye for an eye' the whole world will be blind.

The only way out is forgiveness."

Sidney and Suzanne Simon - Forgiveness: How To Make Peace With Your Past

And Get On With Your Life"

All the years you have waited for them to "make it up to you" and all the energy you expended trying to make them change (or make them pay) kept the old wounds from healing and gave pain from the past free rein to shape and even damage your life. And still they may not have changed. Nothing you have done has made them change. Indeed, they may never change. Inner peace is found by changing yourself, not the people who hurt you. And you change yourself for yourself, for the joy, serenity, peace of mind, understanding, compassion, laughter, and bright future that you get."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"I have discovered that most people who tell me that they cannot forgive a person who wronged them are handicapped by a mistaken understanding of what forgiving is."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"Forgiving is an affair strictly between a victim and a victimizer. Everyone else should step aside...The worst wounds I ever felt were the ones people gave to my children. Wrong my kids, you wrong me. And my hurt qualifies me to forgive you. But only for the pain you caused me when you wounded them. My children alone are qualified to forgive you for what you did to them."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"I am certain that people never forgive because they believe they have an obligation to do it or because someone told them to do it. Forgiveness has to come from inside as a desire of the heart. Wanting to is the steam that pushes the forgiving engine."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"Not even God can make something fair out of what is intrinsically unfair. Only one thing can be done. Something must break through the crust of unfairness and create a chance for a new fairness. Only forgiveness can make the breakthrough."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"I worry about fast forgivers. They tend to forgive quickly in order to avoid their pain. Or they forgive fast in order to get an advantage over the people they forgive. And their instant forgiving only makes things worse...People who have been wronged badly and wounded deeply should give themselves time and space before they forgive...There is a right moment to forgive. We cannot predict it in advance; we can only get ourselves ready for it when it arrives...Don't do it quickly, but don't wait too long...If we wait too long to forgive,

our rage settles in and claims squatter's rights to our souls."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"Spoken forgiving, no matter how heartfelt, works best when we do not demand the response we want. I mean that when we tell people we forgive them, we must leave them free to respond to our good news however they are inclined. If the response is not what we hoped for, we can go home and enjoy our own healing in private."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"Forgiving does not usually happen at once. It is a process, sometimes a long one, especially when it comes to wounds gouged deep. And we must expect some lapses...some people seem to manage to finish off forgiving in one swoop of the heart. But when they do, you can bet they are forgiving flesh wounds. Deeper cuts take more time and can use a second coat."

Lewis B. Smedes - The Art of Forgiving: When You Need To Forgive And Don't Know How

"Forgiving does not erase the bitter past. A healed memory is not a deleted memory. Instead, forgiving what we cannot forget creates a new way to remember. We change the memory of our past into a hope for our future."

Beverly Flanigan - Forgiving The Unforgivable: Overcoming the Legacy of Intimate Wounds

"Forgiveness has nothing to do with forgetting...A wounded person cannot--indeed, should not--think that a faded memory can provide an expiation of the past. To forgive, one must remember the past, put it into perspective, and move beyond it. Without remembrance, no wound can be transcended."

Beverly Flanigan - Forgiving The Unforgivable: Overcoming the Legacy of Intimate Wounds"

A [seemingly] unforgivable injury is a profound and irreversible assault on the fundamental belief system of the person who has been injured...It is not the battering but what happens to a battered woman's beliefs as a result of the battering that makes [the injury seemingly so] unforgivable...[the most serious] injuries separate people from the very ideas they once believed were true--beliefs about themselves, the world, other people, good and bad, right and wrong, the future, and even the validity of the history they have shared with the person who hurt them...

The forgiving process is one in which both morality and meaning

are defined and redefined until the world again makes sense [to the person injured]."

Beverly Flanigan - Forgiving The Unforgivable: Overcoming the Legacy of Intimate Wounds

"Forgiveness is a rebirth of hope, a reorganization of thought, and a reconstruction of dreams. Once forgiving begins, dreams can be rebuilt. When forgiving is complete, meaning has been extracted from the worst of experiences and used to create a new set of moral

rules and a new interpretation of life's events."

Beverly Flanigan - Forgiving The Unforgivable: Overcoming the Legacy of Intimate Wounds

"In a way, forgiving is only for the brave. It is for those people who are willing to confront their pain, accept themselves as permanently changed, and make difficult choices. Countless individuals are satisfied to go on resenting and hating people who wrong them. They stew in their own inner poisons and even contaminate those around them. Forgivers, on the other hand, are not content to be stuck in a quagmire. They reject the possibility that the rest of their lives will be determined by the unjust and injurious acts of another person."

Gordon Dalbey - Letter to the Editor, The Christian Century (November 20-7, 1991)

"Vengeance is having a videotape planted in your soul that cannot be turned off. It plays the painful scene over and over again inside your mind...And each time it plays you feel the clap of pain again...Forgiving turns off the videotape of pained memory Forgiving sets you free."

Lewis Smedes - Forgiveness: The Power To Change The Past (article, Christianity Today, January 7, 1983)

"To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you."

Philip Yancey - The Unnatural Act (article, Christianity Today, April 8, 1991)

"Forgiveness is the only way to break the cycle of blame--and pain--in a relationship...It does not settle all questions of blame and justice and fairness...But it does allow relationships to start over. In that way, said Solzhenitsyn, we differ from all animals. It is not our capacity to think that makes us different, but our capacity to repent, and to forgive."

Old Chinese Proverb -

"Not to forgive is to be imprisoned by the past, by old grievances that do not permit life to proceed with new business. Not to forgive is to yield oneself to another's control...to be locked into a sequence of act and response, of outrage and revenge, tit for tat, escalating always. The present is endlessly overwhelmed and devoured by the past. Forgiveness frees the forgiver. It extracts the forgiver from someone else's nightmare."

Carol Luebering - Finding A Way To Forgive (article, CareNotes)

"You can't forgive what you refuse to remember, any more than you can seek treatment for a disease whose symptoms you have yet to notice."

Carol Luebering - Finding A Way To Forgive (article, CareNotes)

"Forgiveness entails the authentic acceptance of our own worthiness as human beings, the understanding that mistakes are opportunities for growth, awareness and the cultivation of compassion, and the realization that the extension of love to ourselves and others is the glue that holds the universe together. Forgiveness...is not a set of behaviors, but an attitude."

Robin Casarjian - Forgiveness: A Bold Choice For A Peaceful Heart

"Sometimes forgiving was easy for me; sometimes forgiving was a very bold choice. Whatever kind of choice it was, it always led me to a more peaceful heart. It always left me happier and free to move on to create healthier relationships with others and with myself."

Robin Casarjian - Forgiveness: A Bold Choice For A Peaceful Heart

"Don't allow your self-forgiveness to be contingent upon somebody else's readiness or willingness to forgive you. They may get something out of holding on to anger that they aren't ready to let go of. They may be too frightened or wounded to let go of their anger. Feeling angry may be an important part of their healing process at this time. Allow others to be where they are. Respect their right to feel the way they feel."

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David C Pack: The World's Most Perfect Man Who Is Incapable of Doing Wrong

October 22, 2016, 6:12 pm

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On October 11, 1999, Mr. Pack was approached, at his insistence, by those people who had been employees,volunteers, and/or, contractors of the Restored Church of God, and was confronted with further explicitevidence of his sowing discord. He told us that he was sorry and would repent. We withdrew from him to givehim time to show fruits of repentance. The result was, rather than admitting before the church that he had beenthe one causing all the problems presented to him, he has decided to attack those who have confronted him over his conduct.

Link here.

Mr. Pack has stated that he is not held to The Law (biblical) as members are - not that he is held to a higher standard, but that these things don't apply to him (1 Tim 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-15, John 14:15, 1 Tim 5:19-21)
Mr. Pack stated in the first office staff meeting, as Restored was being formed, that he would not look at tithe/contribution records. He decided he could not be held to that promise and began looking at these records immediately prior to the Feast of Trumpets 1999 (Ex 20:16, Mat 5:37)
Mr. Pack divulged, among the office staff, those who were the largest contributors, and those who tithed once a year and/or quarterly (Lev 19:16)
Mr. Pack showed favoritism in duty assignments based on contributions (Lev 19:15, Jam 2:1-9)
Mr. Pack was divulging confidential information given him in counseling sessions and used the information in an attempt to divide family members or as a reason to sever people from their position(s) at RCG (employee, contractor, or, volunteer) (Lev 19:11, 13, 16)
Mr. Pack was found to be a talebearer in that he was repeating stories rather than putting a stop to them (Lev 19:16)
Mr. Pack "terminated for cause" one of the staff members of RCG because he had not paid tithes, even though he was self-employed and all during the time he worked for RCG had incurred losses - therefore had no increase to tithe on (Lev 19:11, 13, 15)
Mr. Pack claimed that certain people embezzled funds after his having approved of the expenditure and or reimbursement (Lev 19:11)
Mr. Pack demanded people work for the church for free, while being paid their severance from their prior employer (e.g., if a person was being paid for two weeks of accrued vacation after resigning, Mr. Pack required them to work for RCG for two weeks without accruing pay) (Lev 19:13)
Mr. Pack was sowing discord within families and between husband and wife (Lev 19:16)
Mr. Pack was sowing discord between the various groups he was trying to get to join RCG (Lev 19:16)
Mr. Pack on a regular basis exaggerated figures as to income and/or attendance (Lev 19:11, Ex 20:16, Col 3:9)
Mr. Pack quickly and easily trampled on brethren who even slightly opposed or held a different viewpoint or opinion. Many times this precipitated inconceivable schemes by him. This was found to be a pattern throughout much of his ministry. (2 Cor 1:24 John 7:24)
Mr. Pack stated that one of the persons bringing the problems to him had gone public with that information. He [Mr. Pack] was challenged on this, and could provide no proof, yet continued to make similar statements. (Ex 20:16, 23:1-2, Lev 19:11, 16, Deu 16:19-20)

The false prophet was confronted with his lies and he responds by doing this:

Meanwhile, Mr. Pack ultimately refused to accept his responsibility in these matters and then began attacking those bringing the problems to his attention. Part of that attack was to attempt to discredit the persons bringing the Mat 18 situation, and the witnesses, with the ministers within RCG. In doing this, he was telling those ministers to ignore what was brought before them, whereby he interfered with judgment - a violation of those principles found in Ex. 23 and Deut. 16 concerning interfering with the giving of judgment:

He even went so far as to "disfellowship" and "mark" one of the ministers who questioned him [Mr. Pack] on his conduct and his [Mr. Pack] sowing of discord.

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October 24, 2016, 10:48 am

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Living In A Cult And Killing It

October 24, 2016, 1:27 pm

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The following article on CRACKED will be sure to stir up a controversy with followers of Armstrongism:

6 Things You Learn Living In (And Killing) A Cult

The Church Of Scientology managed to gain worldwide infamy, despite numbering only roughly 25,000 in the U.S. That's a damn fine annoyance per capita ratio. At its height, the Worldwide Church Of God had nearly 90,000members in the United States, and you've never heard of them. Its followers didn't believe in space alien ghosts or anything, but they used to have other things in common with Scientology: both were founded by a charismatic hustler who told them not to go to the doctor, for example. And yet today the Worldwide Church Of God is more church than cult. That's a rare transition: From crazy to sane. It usually runs the other way, and doesn't stop until the men in white coats take it down with a net. Mike Feazell is part of the reason for WCG's shift to respectability. We asked him how he managed to pull a full-blown cult out of its tailspin of insanity, and he told us ...

6. It Started With A Crazed Ad-Man Who Found God
5. Medicine And Birthday Parties Were Sins Against The Lord
4. It Was Both A Church, And A Wildly Successful Business
3. When The Founder Died, We Started Questioning 'Doctrine'
2. We Broke The Rules To Save A Life
1. But It Was Dropping The Crazy Stuff That Killed The Church

Check the full article out here:

6 Things You Learn Living In (And Killing) A Cult

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When Will Garner Ted Armstrong Ever Die?

October 25, 2016, 11:04 am

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On September 12, 2003, Garner Ted Armstrong reportedly died due to a staph infection due to complications of pneumonia. This obviously was a charade to draw in more members to the Garner Ted Armstrong Evangelistic Association. Even though his son Mark supposedly took over reigns of the organization after an elaborate funeral, it is now increasingly clear that GTA is alive and behind the scenes running his organization. That wax dummy in the casket was pretty accurate!

His web site still features him prominently:

In the latest 21st Century Watch, GTA has an article on whether or not you will go to heaven:

You can watch GTA's amazing sermons:

You can listen to his sermons as MP3's; remembering fondly the old cassettes:

The Intercontinental Church of God web site still portrays GTA as its leader:

Garner Ted's wife Shirley is still running the organization from her home on Lake Palestine, while their son Mark is the more public face. Due to the fact that Mark is not a good speaker like his dad and that the articles he writes seems to be lifted from WorldNetDaily and Fox News, its no wonder Dead Ted needs to be continually trotted out as if he was still alive. The world is collapsing around us and it is vitally important that an Armstrong proclaim that message to the world.

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