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Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. Every crazy, weird and wacky quote is straight from the pens of Armstrongite leaders or members who think they possess some insight into God and the Bible. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!

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    Please ask Rod Meredith why the kids have to suffer because of him...

    What kind of a narcissistic monster makes kids, who are psyched about camp, fast to "beg God" for a favorable ruling in the LCG lawsuit? Because we all know that that is what the fast is for.

    Many kids... most kids, in LCG wait for camp all year long. It is a highlight for these kids, many of whom are homeschooled and have limited social interaction other than with other LCG kids.

    They have nothing to do with the trouble the corrupt LCG leaders have gotten the church into. Why make them fast? Fasting is utterly meaningless unless it's a personal decision. And even then, the goal should be to draw near to God and to relinquish self will and submit to God's will. "Begging God" is silly and futile.

    I feel sorry for all those kids who are being forced into this insanity for no purpose. I'm sure it will ultimately drive them away from Armstrongism even faster than they will like go in the first place. Comment from this thread






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  • 07/27/16--22:22: Letter to the Members of LCG


  • Guest article by John AC Forster 




    To members of the LCG.


    I am one of the commenters on this site. I consider myself part of the body of Christ, being baptized in 1976. I spent about 15 years with WCG before waking up and seeing the truth about the sinfulness of the organization. I then spent a year with CGI until they as well proved that their organization was just a business like WCG. Since that time I have studied and read many an article from several cogs. In each of them I have found bits of truth mixed with a lot of error. With due diligence I discovered that HWA was not all he was put out to be.


    I learned that when god revealed a doctrine to him, it meant something totally different to us. To us, it mean that God put it  in his mind, that it came from God personally. In truth, HWA got his truths from the books of other religions while researching at the public library. HWA didn't outright lie about this, but he didn't remove the misconception either. With study on my own, I discovered that the basic truths (Sabbath, Holy Days, Heaven, Hell, etc) were right. Most of the rest were opinions, some of which were minor errors and others were down right wrong. HWA was no prophet. He has over 200 failed prophecies under his belt. So many failed prophecies that he had to run away to California to start all over his church.


    As the years went by, the sins of HWA were been revealed one by one. His worse one was having sex with his own daughter for over 10 years. This has been confirmed by many of his family members. All of his family members deserted him. Not what one would expect from one being put forth as the present day Elijah. Overall HWA accomplished the task of preaching the gospel to the world. Yahweh did use his unrelenting ambition to accomplish this task, but HWA was no man OF God. A good study for you all can be gained by studying Zech.Chapters 11 to 13, especially (Zec 11:15 - 17)  


    Zec 11:15 And YAHWEH said to me, Again take to yourself the tools of a foolish shepherd.
    Zec 11:16  For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land; he shall not visit those who are cut off, nor will he seek the young, nor will he heal that which is broken, nor will he sustain that which stands. But he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear off their hoofs.
    Zec 11:17  Woe to the worthless shepherd who abandons the flock! The sword shall be against his arm and against his right eye. His arm shall be completely withered, and his right eye shall be totally darkened.


    HWA deserted the flock by flying around the world for about a year proclaiming a strong hand from some place, and never the name of Christ. He and his ministers never tried to help those disfellowshiped, neither attended to their needs, but instead lived high off the hog (ate the flesh of the fat), and robbed them blind of their money leaving them with little to stand on (tearing off their hoofs).


    Yahweh told us that He would raise up such a man. WHY? Because it would force people to make a decision of whether they would follow Him, or a man. It was a test of character. A brutal test that shook the entire church. A test by fire. Many forsook their duty and decided to wait and let God work it out. They did not realize that Yahweh was expecting them to get off the fence and decide whose side they were on.


    Some never made any decision until 1995 when they were confronted up close to bail out of the WCG. Many became scattered as you can read in the above chapters. While you are reading/studying this, note that Yahweh was going to perform yet another test, by removing His sheep/flock from the ministries that sprang up. Yahweh is totally angry by what the hirelings have done to His sheep. The abuse, the high living style and the totally disdained attitude of those that were to be examples to the flock. 


    If you are still members of these organizations of men, come out of them, no longer remain a tithe slave to those that are biblical exempt from receiving tithes, as they are NOT Levities. The NT assembly was to exist on offerings and not tithes, especially 3 tithes. Only 1 tithe was expected under the OT, but it had 3 purposes. No wonder so many of you are broke and cannot provide for your families. This is a grave sin unto you.


    In conclusion I write the above in love and concern for you lost sheep. Hope that you see your way through this mess.

    John AC Forster

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    Ron Fraser has an article up on the PCG web site that discusses "miracles."  Like any good COG leader Fraser and Flurry declare that miracles will ONLY happen in their specific COG.  Miracles never occur outside any church that does not declare its self "Philadelphian."
    By contrast, Gerald Flurry declares of the Philadelphians, comparing them to Elisha’s students who witnessed God’s many miracles, “God has given this Church so many miracles! I believe that with our increased understanding, God holds us more accountable than He did those students of Elisha. They didn’t have near the truth that we have. God has opened so many doors for this work!” (The Former Prophets). 
    Mr. Flurry then clearly articulates the reason why the Philadelphians are the recipients of God’s miracles: “Realize, if you’re loyal to God and submit to His government, He will perform miracles for you—great and small. … Any place where you find God’s family government, you will find many inspiring miracles! … If you’re backing God’s Work, you can expect miracles, because they will happen!” (ibid).
    So there you have it.  If you are LOYAL to Flurry then God will bless you.  Blessings only come if you are following church government.  Jesus nowhere mentions that, but that has never been an issue in the COG.

    Of course it must be taken into account that most church members will NOT experience many miracles.  Most of that is reserved for the ministry.  They are to EXPECT miracles due to the fact they are a minister in the one and only true church.
    God knows His creation. He knows we need a clear vision as to the direction we should follow to fulfill our reason for being—our incredible human potential. To this end He declares, “Where there is no vision the people perish.” Knowing this, God gives enlightened vision to His true ministers. As our pastor general has taught, “Philadelphia ministers must expect miracles(Malachi’s Message).

    Any minister of God truly worth his salt lives in daily expectation of miracles! Such a minister is not occupied with snooping around people’s lives seeking to dig up their sins. He lives to teach, counsel and instruct God’s precious sheep in how to overcome their sins and then fully expects the miracle of conversion that comes to any truly repentant sinner! 
    Since when has the PCG NOT snooped in peoples lives?  Just look at the miscreant Cal Culpepper.  He is a prime example of a snoop that is so nasty that he has led people to commit suicide!
    Jesus Christ’s method of ministry is one in which ministers serve “those who obey God (and the world, through God’s Work). God’s family government doesn’t go around looking for people’s faults and sins. God’s leaders search for ways to serve the people! That is God’s law of love” (Gerald Flurry, God’s Family Government). 
    Apparently serving members is telling them to cut off contact with their adult children who are not part of the PCG.  That is really serving God!

    Fraser is delusional if he believes the ministry of the PCG is not be snooping around members lives.

    Graceless religion cannot and will not produce any miracles.  Death and destruction is its only reward.


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    Things continue to spiral down for the Hulmerous Church of God.  I guess all the two decades of rebellion have finally caught up with him.  He has had his own rebellions in his group with countless ministers and members leaving his flock. Money is shrinking as membership declines.  He still has his million dollar HQ house on South Madison that he could mortgage, if he hasn't already.  Or maybe he could sell his precious Jaguar's.  That won't happen though as it is important to impress the "dignitaries and leaders" he meets.  God's chosen would not be driving a  Honda van!

    Church of God News writes:
    Church of God an International CommunityThe Church has been unable to continue financing the print version of its quarterly magazine Vision. The Internet version has been re-designed, entailing a complete overhaul of the website, which now embodies every issue - from 1999 to 2016 - in English, French, German and Spanish. 
    Its development is continuing, with a bible study course soon to be added.The August 2016 issue of its Church of God News is now available on-line.

    The Hulmerous Church of God is one of the most secretive COG's out there.  Very little will be found online about them.  Their web pages are usually password protected for he exclusive use of their frozen chosen members.

    In Pasadena and the surrounding area he is an unknown presence.  As legalistic as he is, its for the best.

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    God's most favorite false prophet and end time witless witness has declared that in the fall of 2017 the Beast power will arise and the proverbial crap that Armstrongism has been preaching about will hit the fan.

    You now have been warned!  You now have one year left to party hearty!  

    What is the point of following Malm's ridiculous teachings if you are going to fry anyway? So as Martin Luther says: 

     "Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.”

    Woo Hoo! 2017 is going to be a fun year!!!!!  Keep your TV's tuned to Jerusalem so you can watch Malm and Constance preach the warning as the two witnesses.  


    Provided the Calendar data is correct the highly probable year of the coming of Christ and the cleansing of the sanctuary is:  
    Coming forward 2300 years from 280 BC and adding 1 for year zero, arrives at spring 2021 AD,  when the sanctuary shall be cleansed by the coming of Jesus Christ.
    Now subtracting 42 months (1260 days) shows that this final beast emperor  will occupy Jerusalem, beginning at the end of 2017.
    Given the historical difficulties of the Greek struggles it is possible that this date might be in error by a year or two, but one thing is certain; IT IS VERY CLOSE INDEED!
    These are indications of the nearness of the times; they are not dates certain until proved by the appearance of ALL of the Biblical signs.
    At the present time the British people have been  promised a referendum on continued EU membership before the end of 2017 with French and German elections scheduled for Sep / Oct 2017. 
    Britain is highly likely to leave the EU, but exactly how long that process takes is unclear; and certain other countries are likely to follow, creating a crisis in the EU and opening the way for the setting up of the miracle working deceiver in the Vatican in late 2017, who will immediately call for and bring about the  rise of a New Europe; the seventh revival of the Scarlet Beast of the Holy Roman Empire. 
    This man of sin will then go to the Holy Place [Temple Mount] 75 days after being set up in the Vatican and the great tribulation of Mat 24:15 will begin. 
    Along with this is the coming defeat of radical Islam and a move towards a Mideast peace deal (1 Thess 5:3).
    These events are right in line with a date of late 2017 for the start of the tribulation; followed by the coming of Messiah 42 months later; in 2021 AD!
     Brethren, the writing is on the wall!

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    Leave it to another American cult to declare the end of the world.  This one claims sit is to happen by the end of the day.  These fools are just as big liars as the lying Church of God prophets are.  From Thiel to Malm to Pack, not a single one of these lying false propehts know what they are talkiing about.

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    This not so shocking statement was on Exit and Support:

    July 28, 2016
    The recent letters concerning Gerald Flurry's new ruling about the no-contact with unbaptized children should be a serious warning to all families that have any idea of joining the PCG or any other offshoot of the WCG. During the many years my family and I were in the PCG we were invited on numerous occasions to dine with ministers at their homes. It was horrifying to note that most of these ministers had a copy of Hitler's book, Mein Kampf in plain view on their desks or in their bookcase. [Note from ESN: Read letter: HWA Used Mein Kampf as a Guide in Controlling People]
     
    Flurry claims to be preaching the Gospel to the world which is full of unbaptized people. What gospel is he preaching? Has anyone ever heard Flurry, or any minister in the PCG, preach a sermon on the Gospel of Grace or the New Covenant? 
    Flurry, to the best of my knowledge, has never referred to Deuteronomy 4:13; 44-45; 5:22 & 31. The Old Covenant is completed, and Christ Himself introduced the New Covenant and the New Commandments. John 13:34; 14:15; 14:21 & 23; 15:12.& 17.
    It is amazing how so many people who have left the PCG and other offshoots continue to keep Saturday as the Sabbath and all the holy days throughout the year.
     
    Be warned, stay away from the PCG and all other offshoots preaching the gospel of Herbert Armstrong, and which continue to demand tithe after tithe, and all the holy day offerings. --Former PCG member

    These PCG ministers are emulating Herbert Armstrong.  He had a copy that was kept in the safe in the basement of his house along with books on Mormons, Adventists, JW's and other subjects.   Since Gerald Flurry is incapable of ever having an original thought, he yet again has to imitate his idol.
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    Oh those fun boys at the Philadelphia Church of God cult compound!  It's hard to tell what wackiness they will come up with, but they have just dropped another big one.

    God apparently has a physical house located in Edmond Oklahoma, on the PCG cult compound of course.  God has an earthly temple which is the Herbert W Armstrong Auditorium.

    As usual, Gerald Flurry does not have an original thought in his alcohol riddled brain.  His earthly idol Herbert Armstrong, said the aome thing decades ago.  The Ambassador Auditorium (God's House)  was filed with almost every kind of debauchaery you could imagine.  Sex romps (gay and straight), drugs, alcohol fueled parties, mate swapping, and even stories of demons running rampant.  Word has it that the HWA Auditorium is also getting its share of gay and straight sex, alcohol, and demon problems.  If  the Ambassador Auditorium could do it, why can't they!
    In recent years, God has been getting the minds of His people focused on the millennial temple prophesied in Ezekiel 40-48. Today, in the hall of administration at the Philadelphia Church of God headquarters, is a model of the Ezekiel temple. (You can read about this in our booklet Ezekiel: The End-Time Prophet.) This temple—like Armstrong Auditorium, God’s physical house today—points us forward to new Jerusalem, and the dazzling future it represents.
    Flurry and crew have been writing all kinds of articles to train member all about the Jerusalem temple and all of its accouterments.  Part of that training is talking about the Ark of the Covenant. The Flurry cult are currently under the delusion that they will find it buried in a hill in Ireland.  They then will put it on display for the whole world to marvel at.  Since God currently lives in the HWA Auditorium you can be guarantees that PCG would put it on display under the gold inscription in the lobby.

    See  Does Joel Hilliker Dream of Finding the Ark of the Covenant?   
    Also see: Bob Thiel's asinine belief that HE will be the discoverer of the Ark of the Covenant.


    Continue in verses 21-22. God’s voice emanated from between the cherubim above that seat. Remember: Today, the veil is gone, so when you come to the incense altar, you are right there before the ark and mercy seat, where God’s voice is! God communes with His people from there daily! 
    Take another peek into God’s heavenly throne room in Revelation 11:19. There we see the real ark! “This is God’s temple in heaven. There is an ark of the testament or covenant there, in the midst of lightning and thunderings and earthquakes—a very impressive sight. First, there was the ark in heaven. God had Israel build a physical ark patterned after the ark in heaven. It was a symbol of God’s rule on Earth as in heaven. … There were two physical cherubs with outstretched wings over the ark, or God’s throne. That is the way it literally is in heaven” (ibid). 
    This verse in Revelation “pictures the ark as playing a key role in Christ’s rule over the nations. This is a prophecy. God is going to administer His law and feed the world with great abundance, physically and spiritually. Almost immediately, the world will be introduced to the ark after Christ returns. God is preparing us now to teach about the ark. We must understand this vital subject. The ark of the covenant is for the whole world” (ibid).
    Notice the prophecy in Jeremiah 3:16. This suggests that sometime soon, the ark will be discovered and put on display where people can “visit it.” Even so, not long after that, people will not talk about it anymore, or even remember it. The ark is just a symbol of God’s rule on Earth. But the time is coming when that rule will actually be here! You no longer need the symbol when the real thing manifests on Earth.
    Flurry and crew have new commission now.
    It is to teach the entire world about the TempleRead about Ezekiel’s temple in Ezekiel 43:10. “God commands us to show the world this temple, and the government it represents—in detail!” Mr. Flurry wrote. “Then the people of Israel and the world will see that the way God manages His government is vastly different from anything in the world today. When they see how Gods government will work and how the problems of this world will be solved, in time they will be ashamed of how they have been defiant toward the living God!” (Jerusalem’s Temples).
    Notice our responsibility in verse 11. Our job is to support God’s apostle in showing people all the details about this temple—including all its ordinances and laws. How much do you really know about the ordinances and laws of God’s sanctuary? Mr. Flurry said this is a commission we have to complete before the Tribulation! We have to publicize these details in a way that is vivid and memorable enough for it to make a lasting impression. 
    There seems to be no end to the stupidity that comes out of the Church of God anymore. Even worse is that there are gullible people that still believe it is all true!


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    This was posted in relation to the John Robinson firing:

    Anonymous said...


    There is NO WAY in the universe that Bowmer quit. He has been Mr. Ames' right-hand-man since the beginning. 
    What's far more likely is that he got caught saying something less than flattering about Meredith, McNair or Ceiseilka and a spy turned him in.
    They way they do it at LCG HQ's is they sit you down at the executive table and tell you that you are fired but if you agree to sign a series of papers relinquishing your rights and stating that you will remain silent, they will go with whatever reason you prefer (quit, needed to move to take care of mom, had health issues, etc.).
    This is how it has always worked at LCG headquarters. 
    Bill and John were fired from editorial no matter what lies/spin HQs tries to spew out.
    The only question that remains is why?

    July 31, 2016 at 5:48 PM 

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    The perverse teachings of the Philadelphia Church of God just keep getting worse and worse.  Gerald Flurry recently extended the no contact rule to all children/adults who are not part of the PCG.

    Now the degenerate teachings take an even darker party.  PCG members are to cut off all contact with mates and spouses who have stopped attending PCG, even if they are "pleased to dwell" with their spouse.

    Fred Dattalo is a sick man like Cal Culpepper.  Both of these "men" hail from Pasadena where they learned to treat the "common people" like dirt, which they regularly did while employed in accounting and the auditorium.

    Just heard that Fred Dattalo from Canada made the announcement Sabbath that the No Contact ruling now extends to mates/spouses that have stopped attending. What happened to "if they're pleased to dwell with you?". One member got up and left during services! Why aren't more leaving? Maybe because people want to walk away from their families and they use Flurry as their reason! Sickening! Their love has Waxed cold and they are without natural affection! 

    Finally a report that one person had the wherewithal to stand up and walk out!

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    The Philadelphia Church of God continues its downward spiral as it loses members and money.

    In spite of all this, they still drop multiple millions of dollars on dancehall for Flurry's kids that the membership are not allowed to use.

    They bought a huge estate in the UK so they can be close to the Ark of the Covenant when it is found and to take possession of the Stone of Scone when an idiot fanatic steals it.

    They are losing millions on their concert series, just as his idol HWA did.

    Flurry wants to drop millions on his own jet so he does not have to sit next to sweaty adults or screaming kids.

    They let pedophiles continue to work on the Edmond cult compound.

    Families continue to be ripped apart by vile no-contact polices.

    The Worldwide Church of God has birthed numerous harlot daughters over the decades, with the PCG and the Restore Church of God have to be the two most illegitimate.




    From Exit and Support:

    Cut-Off Policy Regarding Non-Baptized Children Can't Stop the Flow of Information:
    August 1, 2016
     
    The cut-off policy regarding non-baptized children is just another way for Gerald Flurry and company to believe they are in control. 
    This is directed primarily at the non-baptized, underage children who have been able to maintain a relationship with those who have left PCG. 
    Does Gerald Flurry and PCG really think that they can stop the flow of information? 
    What are they really trying to hide? I thought that PCG was to have a message that would reach the "Laodiceans," and preach the Gospel to the whole world. 
    Instead, they have been in existence for nearly 27 years (and still remain paranoid that people are out to get them). 
    The facts are that the PCG is hemorrhaging, and they are blaming others for their failures. 
    Here is a small list of what is going on there: 
    1) By their own admission PCG is currently experiencing a 25% drop in income. How long till the cut backs, and layoffs come?  
    2) They "reach out" on their college radio station (that about 300 people, mostly PCG members and co-workers) listen to. 
    3) They are seriously considering buying and operating a private jet. 
    4) When you consider that, despite their critical financial position, a multi-million dollar dancing facility is being built. Jude Flurry (Stephen's son), is one of the top Irish dancers in the world. 
    5) The PCG taught that the WCG (under Joe Tkach, Sr.) made Ambassador College the focus, and not the message, and now PCG, especially Stephen Flurry, is doing just that. 
    The majority of the information that I (and several others have found out about PCG) comes from their own websites, members writing to ESN ( and other related sites), and PCG members social media accounts. I remember when Gerald Flurry didn't want to go on the Internet; now he can run and hide, but he can't avoid it. --Former member of PCG [name withheld]


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    I have had several interesting conversations over the weeks with people with close ties to James Malm and his sidekick Constance.  Malm has elevated her to an almost mythical position in his mini cult.  She writes articles for him and does all she can to support him with her "spiritual" knowledge.  Malm portrays Constance as the greatest spiritual widow the church has ever seen, even though she is no widow.

    Prior to joining up with Malm she was a professional church hopper after leaving the WCG.  I'm not talking about COG related groups but evangelical churches.  She would get involved and then someone would contact the church and tell them to ask her a certain question about something she did with arsenic and she would disappear from the church and move on to another.  Add to this mix an extended foray into the black arts with the a head witch in her hometown Petoskey.  She is well versed in the black arts, spells and incantations.  Just the characteristics that a spiritual widow of Jesus would possess.

    During all of this she was slowly and methodically adding arsenic to her husband's food, if you could call it that.  Her husband said she was the worst cook imaginable.  After suffering major health issues and numerous hospital visits, it was discovered what was going on.  Now, thankfully he is in good health, much to her chagrin.

    It was also revealed that she claims to be disabled, just like Malm does, even though those that know her claim she is not.  A professional moocher better describes her, just like it does Malm.

    One of the hallmarks of the Christian faith is its respect for families.  This is not something that is on Constance's or Flurry's radar..   Like Flurry, she has cut off all contact with her child from her previous marriage.

    Why is it that so many in the Church of God, who claim to beacons of spiritual knowledge, are so sick in their treatment of family? Apparently it is more important to bastardize the law and make it their god than it is to practice grace, love and mercy.

    Beware of the leaven of the Malmite Pharisees.  They can be deadly to your very existence.

    More to come in this story....



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    Those fun followers of Jesus James Malm are looking forward to God killing all the Jezebel's in the Church of God as he splatters them on the ground.

    One acolyte writes:

    I Kings 9 really paints a picture of Jehu, God’s anointed, that makes him look like some organized crime assassin. After seeing Jezebel splattered all over the paving, he walks over her dead and bloody corpse and says, “I’m hungry, let’s eat!”.
    This reminds me of Psalm 18:20-28 :
    20 The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.
    21 For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God.
    22 For all his judgments were before me, and I did not put away his statutes from me.
    23 I was also upright before him, and I kept myself from mine iniquity.
    24 Therefore hath the LORD recompensed me according to my righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in his eyesight.
    25 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful; with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright;
    26 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.
    27 For thou wilt save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks.
    28 For thou wilt light my candle: the LORD my God will enlighten my darkness.
    To any (but especially those within or affiliated with the corporate churches of God)that play fast and loose with the statutes, judgments, and any of the rest of God’s commandments (verse 22) and who act like God has forsaken planet earth (See Ezek 8:12 and 9:9)a time of reckoning is coming.
    Those who trust in their slyness, deceitful lying, and double-talk, (verse 26–last part) will get a lesson from whomever God anoints to bring them into their own personal tribulation for such behavior, just like Jezebel got at the hand of Jehu.
    God will not be mocked,(Gal 6:7), so we all must govern ourselves accordingly.
    Two guesses as to who is "anointed" to bring that personal tribulation as they damn the world around them.

    Then a second acolyte writes that even if it is your own family being splattered on the ground, you do not mourn for them.  This is the typical Armstrongite bullshit that has been preached for decades.
    It reminds me also of Lev. 10:6, when Aaron was not allowed to mourn the death of his sons, but to leave the mourning to others, as he was under anointing and God Himself had killed them. I know it isn’t a completely parallel situation, but when both were “about our Father’s business”, they were not allowed to mourn what God Himself has done, or a decision He has made, even when it involves our own families.
    It has been interesting to watch over the decades how the Church of God loves to bathe itself in blood and guts.  Where would the church be without death and damnation that it gleefully looks forward to? Dangling meathooks, concentration camps, famine, war, violence...on and on the list goes of the things that the COG looks forward to.  Still no Jesus, but plenty of blood and guts.


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    This is also applicable to all Church of God's out there today claiming they are the only ones that are right, that all the others are wrong, and that they are better than all the others.

    Rod Meredith, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, Gerald Flurry, Bob Thiel, James Malm, 
    Vic Kubik, Gerald Weston, and David Hulme have all said this very thing.

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    Canada has exported many wonderful things to the States, but unfortunately a few stinkers too.

    Remember Jonathan Bell, the screaming public access minister?  No one listened to him.  No one sent him money. No one believed his message.  Women ignored him.

    Listening to his comments it reminds a person of our other Canadian export, James Malm.  The similarities are striking in the things they both say.

    ht: to reader here

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    The Huffington Post has an excellent article up about a woman who was sexually harassed by a WCG minister in Pasadena when she was a student.

    This is NOT an isolated case when it comes to the details she tells in her story.  It has long been recorded in the Ambassador Reports, The Painful Truth, and other blogs and web sites about how ministers in Pasadena and Big Sandy would ask men and women, sexually charted questions when called in for counseling.  This kind of behavior was  practiced by many in Pasadena.  Many of these perverts are now in leadership positions in other COG groups where they still do the exact same thing.

    Women suffered the brunt of these sick ministers, though many men did too.  Many stories came out of counseling sessions of ministers masturbating while talking about the sexual habits of coeds and men.  Some of these men are now parked in LCG, PCG, RCG, UCG and COGWA.

    I Was Sexually Harassed By A Christian Fundamentalist Minister


    The author writes:

    Today, I read an article by a fellow HuffPost blogger about how cruelly some individuals in her fringe religion treated her when she was date-raped and got pregnant. 
    Her words ignited a passion in me to tell my own “church abuse” story publicly for the first time. Maybe her courage and mine will inspire other women with Fundamentalist or other extremist religious backgrounds to speak up, or maybe even escape and find a new spiritual path, one that supports both genders as we seek to love our neighbors as ourselves. 
    My parents joined an extreme Fundamentalist Christian fringe group when I was six years old.

    While enrolled at Arizona State she got accepted to "God's College."
    During the second half of my junior year, a string of unfortunate events led to me be accepted at the last minute after all into “God’s college”. 
    My friends threw a going-away party the night before I left. During it, I saw the wife of a junior minister making out with her brother-in-law. His hand was up her shirt! As in most Fundamentalist “religions”, members are encouraged to tattle on one another. I was torn. I didn’t want to get involved. But I didn’t want to sin. So I did my duty and told an elder what I’d seen. He assured me he would handle it.  
    As a female transfer student from a “worldly” [read:pagan/heathen/sinful] university, a girl with a budding journalist’s mind and attitude, I was under scrutiny from the minute I arrived on that small campus. The third day, I was called to the dean’s office. He asked me if I had accused a godly woman of inappropriate conduct with her brother-in-law. I said yes and told him accurately what I’d seen. 
    He informed me that I had not seen any such thing, that she had denied it, and that I was to never speak about it again. (Probably not blog about it on HuffPost, either!) 
    The author then relates how the minister's wife went and lied to the ministry about her, then was called in and was instructed to find a minister to counsel with and this is what happened:

    The minister I chose had me sit on a small, hard wooden chair set a good distance from his large wooden desk. He ignored me completely while I fidgeted and cried. I was terrified of him, of God, of the church itself. Of my blood running in the streets when an avenging Jesus came back to slaughter unbelievers. I knew Jesus would be extra vicious with those who had spurned the truth. 
    The minister began to ask me horrifying questions.
    “Where did he touch you?”
    “How did that feel?”
    “Did your panties get wet?”
    “Did you see his...”
    Then she relates the sickening part:
    I told him the truth, because I had been taught not to lie. That first day, he just listened to me tearfully confess that my teenage body responded to being around Dave. I was shaking and crying as I told him these deeply intimate, shameful things. He told me to come back the next day.  
    The next day, after I waited silently in my little chair for what seemed like an hour, he asked similar questions. But this time, he was so angry at me (I thought) that he was banging the underside of his desk drawer. His face got really red and then he made a sound I’d never heard before. Then, in the middle of my next sentence, he seemed to suddenly relax. He told me to leave.  
    I had no idea what was going on. 
    He did the same thing the next day. And the next. It was terrifying when his face got so red! And the banging noise! 
    This man and the other men who did this same thing over the decades now think they are God's chosen ministers in the various splinter cults.  They have done no wrong in their lifetime.

    Read the entire story here: I Was Sexually Harassed By A Christian Fundamentalist Minister

    Read her excellent blog here: Wendy Keller Compassion Page


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    Doug Winnail has another Friday posting up on how to be a peacemaker.  Do you think Rod Meredith is listening?

    CAD Comments - Friday, August 05, 2016Are You a Peacemaker?
    When Jesus Christ returns, He will establish the government of God that will bring peace to the earth (Isaiah 9:6-7). This is why Jesus emphasized a fundamental teaching of Christianity, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God” (Matthew 5:9). This is also why the Apostle Paul advised Christians in Rome, “as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men” (Romans 12:17-21). Paul explained that we can promote peace by not seeking revenge, by not mistreating others, and by overcoming evil by doing good. Solomon wisely observed, “A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger” (Proverbs 15:1). Jesus warned that making angry or disparaging comments about a brother or sister is the same as murder because it breaks the spirit of the law (Matthew 5:21-26). David wrote, “Great peace have those who love Your law” (Psalm 119:165). One of the most important lessons we must learn if we want to reign with Christ in the Kingdom of God is that peace comes when we follow and learn to apply the laws of God.
    Have a profitable Sabbath,
    Douglas S. Winnail

    Rod Meredith....did you read this?  "...promote peace by not seeking revenge..." Just think how much better things would have been if you had promoted peace and apologized to the Scarborough's.  Now you are dropping millions to defend yourself, McNair and others for smearing the Scarborough's reputation. A soft answer like, "I'm sorry." would have solved it all, but your disparaging remarks against your brothers and sisters was like sticking a knife in their backs.

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    Civil Calendars for MECKLENBURG County 
    Superior Court:

    # 8 _____________________________________________________________________________________

    Tuesday, September 06, 2016

    15-CVS-017573  
    
    
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    This is an excerpt from a posting on Exit and Support.

    Recently, I was surprised to receive a call from a good friend from my PCG days whose name is Cassie Flory. Cassie, who was baptized, was married to Scott Flory.1 I was very fond of Scott and Cassie and when I first came into the PCG I would fellowship with them often. We would have meals after services, and I even stayed at their house from time to time. Scott, as I recall, was a very devoted husband and father. I never saw him mistreat his wife and kids in any way. He worked hard to provide for his family and his wife and his kids never lacked anything. In all actuality, I envied them because at that time I was single and living alone. Cassie told me that her marriage to Scott was, for all practical purposes, dissolved by the Regional Director of the North East PCG--Cal Culpepper. She said they both were cast out ("suspended") from the PCG a few years ago under the direct orders from Cal Culpepper for certain offenses that Culpepper found unacceptable. 
    Scott apparently pined away faithfully during all the time of their suspension and was waiting for that special phone call from Culpepper that would allow them to return to the "church." Well, some time ago, he got the green light from Culpepper to return. However Scott was faced with a dilemma. The condition of his return to the PCG was that he had to turn out his wife Cassie and no longer allow her to live with him. When Scott told Cassie that he was allowed back in PCG, she said, "What about me?" He told her to leave his house ASAP. Cassie told me that she had nowhere to go!! She packed some of her belongings and lived for a while with various friends. She finally found her own place and is trying to rebuild her life, but is now living without the man she loved and was married to for over 10 years. All of this on the direct orders from the demonized Cal Culpeper.
    This couple has two children, a boy and a girl. They are both grown young people and, from what I understand, do not attend the PCG any longer. So it seems that my once good friend Scott who I always remembered as a loving husband has--at the behest of Culpepper and for the sake of saving his skin from the Tribulation--lost his wife and children. As a consequence of this new policy from Flurry, he will (in his own mind) never see his family again unless they repent under torture from the Beast power and be "martyred for the faith." Then they will all be happily united in HWA's "World Tomorrow." My question is this: What kind of poisonous spiritual Kool Aid is Gerald Flurry forcing his followers to drink that would turn a loving husband and father into something like this?

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