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Here's Your Chance To Live In A COG Prophet's Home! Dave Pack Selling His Home

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402 Pheasant Run, 
Wadsworth, OH 44281
Zillo ad here.


Dave Pack has been suffering one financial set back after another with his over ambitious building program, defecting ministers and members who took their tithe money with them.  Ever since he told his dwindling membership that the money sitting in their retirement accounts, investment accounts and other savings all belonged to God (i.e. Dave Pack) and that they must send it all in, he has left himself sitting high and dry financially.  There is nothing left but the forced tithes of the few remaining members.



Now Dave has put his home up for sale. We should all realize that this is a wonderful gesture by Dave as he donates all of the money to the church for the gospel message!  As God's greatest minister to ever lead a Church of God since Jesus sat down to feed the five thousand, Dave has finally set the example as the most giving minister the church has ever seen.  His gift of over $300,000.00 to the Restored Church of God is amazing!  Well done Dave!  We all know that you would NEVER dream of moving into a bigger and more beautiful home like those ministers in LCG, PCG and UCG do.  No sir!






I hope all of the furniture in this home is 
"staging furniture", because if it's not, Dave has no taste at all!



Living Church of God HQ Now Reporting Members To Ministry If They Have Not Registered For Feast

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Living Church of God has been faced with one crisis after another over the last few years.  As more and more members become disgruntled with the leadership and they way they are being treated, they are pulling back or away from the church.    As they pull back they participate less and less in church activities and gatherings.  This also results in a withholding of tithe money, which inhibits the church leadership being able maintain their lifestyles.  All of this is happening in spite of the fact that the LCG big boy's continues to claim the church is the most unified it has ever been.







LCG recently opened up registration for their feast sites around the world.  To date, the registration numbers are running close to 3,000 people less than last year.  When 2,000-3,000 fail to show up at LCG feast sites, this causes one huge finial drain on the church.  This is a significant drop in income for them and they are NOT happy!



LCG HQ has been compiling names of all those rebellious members and have reported them to their local ministers.  The Church of God Gestapo at work once again!  They have instructed the ministry to go after those members and make them register for the LCG feast.

Pastors:  
This week we sent you an e-mail with a list of those members in your pastorate who are not yet registered for the Feast of Tabernacles.  It is the “Unregistered Festival Report” of your congregations.  Please use this report to encourage brethren in your congregations to register for the Feast.  Or, you may wish to ask your Festival Advisor to take care of this responsibility.  Thank you for helping us encourage everyone to register!


Let’s get serious brethren!  How is Lil’Jimmy going to be able to afford another feast in Hawaii if you don't register and send in to LCG your tithe of the tithe and excess second tithe!

UCG Old Roosters Still Ruling The Coop

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The good old boys network is still alive and well in the United Church of God.  The aging roosters are still ruling the coop.

They recently released their hierarchical positions of the leadership to the church to their members.

The following are the updated committees and their chairmen: 
Doctrine Committee: Scott Ashley, Bill Bradford, Bob Dick, John Elliott (chair) and Mark Mickelson.  
Education Committee: Jorge de Campos, Aaron Dean (chair), Rex Sexton and Tony Wasilkoff.  
Ethics Committee: Bob Dick, John Elliott, Mark Mickelson (chair), Mario Seiglie and Tony Wasilkoff.  
Executive Committee: Scott Ashley, Aaron Dean, John Elliott, Don Ward (chair) and Robin Webber.  
Media and Communications Committee: Scott Ashley (chair), Mario Seiglie, Rex Sexton, Tony Wasilkoff and Robin Webber.  
Roles and Rules Committee: Jorge de Campos, Aaron Dean, Rex Sexton and Robin Webber. There was no chair currently decided for this committee.  
Strategic Planning and Finance Committee: Bill Bradford (chair), Jorge de Campos, Bob Dick, Mario Seiglie and Robin Webber.

It's rather sad to see some of the men that preside on the Ethic's committee considering how they have mistreated church members over the decades.  



The entire UCG hierarchy is built upon a bedrock of unethical procedures by unethical men.  These men were all employees of WCG when all of the changes were hitting.  They disfellowshipped and mistreated members for many months while they were on the church payroll, all the while they were working behind the scenes plotting and scheming on how to take as many members and as much money as they could with them.  They worked to ensure that they would have money sitting in the bank in order to pay them before they jumped ship.  


Ethic's be damned!  This is UCG after all!



Why Is There A Masculinity Problem In The Churches of God?

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For decades we have been blessed forced to listen to Rod Meredith shout about men in the church who are not masculine and therefore in his opinion, weak.  Rod Meredith set himself forth as a "man's man," the golden gloves champion, the masculine disciplinarian, the head of the church and the conduit of our potential salvation.

We hear everything from "queer men" that were causing COG men to wear black socks with their dark suits to the ultimate blashmeny of men in pink polo shirts with little effeminate alligators on the chest.  In 1961 Rod went on the warpath:

America, WAKE UP!  
May God help you to realize that this problem of effeminate men is not concerned just with weak, "queer" characters in some other part of your town or city. It is a thing affecting MILLIONS of American men of all ages and backgrounds! Our very SURVIVAL as a nation is directly affected by this vital problem! As the above report so vividly points out, the American man is just plain WEAK! 
And the sickening TRUTH is that these soft, MARSHMALLOW-like men very easily turn to HOMOSEXUALITY and become "queers" in every sense of the word. They are neither MEN nor WOMEN— they are a wretched, PERVERTED "it"!
Meredith has the answer to make men "men" again.  Go cut some trees, plow some fields and most important of all SWEAT!  Nothing is more important for a man than to be all SWEATY.   Sweaty men are horny men.  Rod Meredith likes that.  Real men need to feel "firmness" and "hardness" in their bodies.  Rod Meredith likes that.
PHYSICALLY: First of all, modern men should quit being physical "marshmallows" and begin to physical strength and energy! Through proper food, sleep and exercise they should develop a sense of self-confidence and leadership which makes them better able to take their place at the head of human society.  
All of the laws of good health enter into this, but one of the primary ones in regard to the problem of masculinity is that of EXERCISE. Most American men, today, sitting in front of their TV sets, riding to work, sitting at their desk, do not get NEARLY enough exercise. That's why they are "softies." They are completely UNLIKE the pioneer men of yesteryear who were constantly walking, chopping down trees, plowing behind a team of horses, working and DRIVING their way through the wilderness and over obstacles! Unless, alas, they are already too old or have heart trouble or some similar condition, American men need to exercise vigorously and really SWEAT. They need to feel their blood stirred up and get the male hormones stirring in their system! They need to feel a firmness and hardness in their muscles, an agility and coordination in their body as a whole and a sense of ENDURANCE when the going gets rough. Even physically, they need to feel what it is like to be a MAN!  
Men need to be men because they need to rule women, apparently with a strong hand from someplace. After all, everything wrong into world is the result of women.  From being school teachers to writing articles for Beyond Today, the women in the church have joined ranks with Simiramis to destroy men.

All real students of the origins of modern "Christianity" realize that most of our modern religious ideas have evolved from a WOMAN—Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod mentioned in Genesis 10. In Alexander Hislop's authoritative volume, The Two Babylons, he shows how virtually ALL of this world's religions have evolved from the ancient Chaldean mystery system evolved by the harlot-wife of ancient Nimrod, who founded Babylon in rebellion against God.

"No wonder he becomes "queer" so easily—and in so MANY WAYS! For not just in war but in broken homes and juvenile delinquency the weak, spineless, effeminateAmerican male is responsible to a great degree. A respected marriage counselor, Dr. A. H. Clemens of Washington, D. C, recently stated that almost all family breakdowns can be traced to MOTHER-DOMINATED HOMES. He said: "That phony romantic stuff that Hollywood is teaching is very misleading." Psychiatric research has shown, he pointed out, that homes dominated by the mother produce "ninety-one of each one hundred mentally sick adult males" and the vast majority of all schizophrenics, split personality sufferers."

"Increasingly today, in America and Britain, men are allowing WOMEN to rule their lives from the day of their birth until the day of their death! And this statement is more LITERAL than most of you probably even begin to realize!  
Notice the typical "modern" situation: When a baby boy is born, first hospital nurses and then his mother dictate his every move. Then he goes to school, and women teachers take him over and mold him to a large extent in their image. After school, most of his play-hours will still be under the supervision of mother. If he happens to take music lessons, chances are that a woman teacher will dominate him during this part of each week. Then, on Sunday, he may go to a typical Sunday school where WOMEN tend to dominate in nearly every department. "

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It is time for real MEN to get back to "the faith once delivered"—To the religion of the BIBLE. It is time for them to really STUDY the lives of Abraham, Moses and DAVID to see what a real man should be like!  
It is time real MEN took the lead in society and got rid of the "queer" ideas in the field of dress, art, music and literature—to mention just a few areas of modern life which have been perverted by our EFFEMINATE society. 
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Instead of singing in a deep, forceful, masculine voice, why—especially in the last few years—do we find so-called "singers" whining through their noses in a sick dog, pleading tone to their "ladylove." Why do we find a type of art rising up in the last few years which is indeed "queer" to the nth degree—a veritable MESS of jumbled forms and lines and colors?  
Why do we find the "leaders" in men's clothing styles trying to palm off on British and American males little "pink" shirts and socks and ties to wear, nylon under pants like females wear, and cute little bows and buttons and other childlike contrivances on their suits and sports outfits? Why? 
All of the things quoted above are still things that occupy Meredith's mind. The men in his church are so effeminate and weak that he is holding a retreat for LCG men in August so they can lean how to "man up" and be rulers of their households as MASCULINE SWEATY MEN!




This masculinity issue is not confined to LCG though, the Philadelphia Church of God is also suffering with weak men in its midst.  Part of that problem is that so many of the men at the PCG compound are closet cases, according to many members.  It has gotten so bad that Joel Hilliker had to write another article for PCG men on how to be masculine.  Joel Hilliker should NOT be the one teaching this, but that's another story.

Joel too wants to see men SWEAT!  Physical exertion that produces sweat and strength is good and manly!

What is the essence of biblical manhood? Biblical manhood means leading, providing and protecting.All of these roles require one attribute: strength. They take strength of character, strength in resolve, strength in determination, strength in confrontation. The Christian man’s responsibility also requires another type of strength: physical strength.
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Proverbs 20:29 begins: “The glory of young men is their strength ….” God gave men this glory of greater bodily strength! Why? To help us fulfill our roles as providers, protectors and leaders.
You shouldn’t shy away from that. You shouldn’t apologize for it. In fact, you should maximize it. Build your physical strength. 
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Every aspect of the man’s role is under attack in our society, and we need to fight that in our own lives. We need to do what God designed our bodies to do. We need to become more physically capable in our masculine duties. And we need to strengthen our thinking toward fulfilling these duties. In fact, I am convinced that building your physical strength is a specific, tangible, effective means of accomplishing all of these goals! 
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While men cant be out plowing fields, they can be digging post holes, lifting bags of mulch and mowing lawn's!  Some are asking, "When has Hilliker ever mown his lawn?  When has he ever fertilize it?" Students and the landscape department on the compound take care of his lawn.  There may be a reason for that too, but it's another story.
Physical strength is very useful to be a provider. If you work with your hands, the stronger and more able you are physically, the higher your quality and speed of work, so maintaining your vitality is often connected to your earnings. Even if you have a day job at a desk, manual tasks will come up at the office and especially outside of it. In fact, you never know when you might need to take a job as a laborer. The stronger you are, the more you will be able to care for your property, digging post holes, lifting bags of mulch, mowing, moving furniture, and so on. The fitter your body is for these tasks, the less you will have to hire these out. And you just never know when some tool will fail; when you are strong, you can be comfortable resorting to brute strength when you have to. 
Strong he-men make great leaders, though not so much in PCG apparently.  Hilliker also likes the fact that a good workout make men horny.  The testosterone gets pumping with a good workout.

Physical strength is very useful to be a leader. A physically stronger man naturally commands more authority and respect than a weaker man. A strong physique does not automatically make you a good leader, but it is more of an asset than a weak physique. Men who are strong are healthier and have higher testosterone. Building strength combats depression, boosts your mental health, increases your confidence, and fortifies your willingness to face challenges. A physically strong man will not be a good leader without higher attributes, but those higher attributes can be wasted on a physically weak man.
Men in the true church must experience pain.  No pain, no gain!
 It wasn’t until my late 20s that I learned that by working out I had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain.I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: Pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness.
Hilliker ends with these words of wisdom:
Getting stronger may seem intimidating. But at its most basic level, exercise is simply moving something, whether it is a barbell, bricks, or just your own body. When I was in my 20s, I bought some cheap dumbbells and checked out a library book that contained simple descriptions of how to use them. You can find barbells and fitness equipment in the classifieds or on Craigslist all the time, because people buy those things with great intentions and then don’t stick with it. 
For basic and extremely effective strength-building, I recommend learning three simple movements: the deadlift, the back squat and the shoulder press. If you can find someone to coach you on these movements, you can learn the proper form. Then it is simply a matter of devoting some time to it every week. If you’re doing it safely, the more effort and intensity you put into it, the greater return you’ll receive. 
And as you strain and sweat, remember what you are building strength for.
If Hilliker and Rod Meredith want to see what a real man does, they need to look no further than the gay man in Orlando that saved lives during the horrific shootings the other day.
Horror inside the massacre club: Survivors describe hiding under bodies as hero nursing student tells how he saved man who had been shot three times
How many LCG, PCG and UCG men would have done that?




What Was Living Church of God Thinking Letting Mario Hernandez Preach????

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Above is a video of Mario Hernandez giving a "sermon" on a "Love Story in Seven Chapters." You will be lucky to make it through the first 5 minutes without turning it off.  The self-righteous, condescending,  pompous-ass attitude that he had while in Pasadena is now even more fine tuned.  I cannot truly imagine sitting through an hour sermon listening to this man.  I would sit an listen to Dave Pack or Rod Meredith for an hour before I would this man.  Truly pathetic!

The entire focus of his sermon is on Hebrew holy days and NOT on Jesus Christ.  Christians know the story of  Jesus Christ as the real ultimate love story.  That is the story behind the resurrection, justification and grace.  Unconditional love and acceptance without the law, not some group of days meant for an agrarian society coming to terms with their identity as a people.  Days that were to set them apart from the pagan followers around them.

Berean Literal Bible...who also has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 2 Corinthians 3:6

Why is it that none of these false teachers  can ever start a sermon or write an article praising Jesus Christ but always have to start off by praising Herbert Armstrong?  Jesus be damned, because Herbert's the man.

Getting Sodom Straight for The Church of God Ministry

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Getting Sodom Straight for The Church of 

God Ministry

It's a good time to be reminded that the story of Sodom, misused and misunderstood, is NOT a Biblical a whole town of Middle Eastern men and boys being gay and wanting to literally rape , just for the heck of it, Angels unawares.
The story that unfolds in Genesis 19 is a  Middle Eastern hospitality story and not a story based on homosexuality.  No town is all gay men and boys.  
Sodom's problems as remembered by Ezekiel were that the people were prideful, had too much food, too much time, neglected the poor, were haughty and committed abominations (Ez. 16:49-50). Not ANY mention of mass homosexuality. Abominations can be just about anything not in tune with the law and in this case was a reference to idol worship. Another common Israelite trait all through their history. Why would papa Lot offer his virgin daughter's to a crowd of homosexuals, in place of his guests? What interest would homosexuals have in virgin women? ZERO, unless the girls were being offered as an appeasing virgin sacrifice ("for they have not known a man.") This would qualify as an abomination to be sure, and also idolatry. Human sacrifice was still an option it appears with Abram and Lot.
Another factor is that in that culture the protection of guests under one's roof to a male host was a matter of honor. This is why Lot scrambled to come up with a solution to the problem. In Lot's mind, it was about Lot's reputation and honor. Not an uncommon modern theme in Middle Eastern men to this day. Strangers were not taken kindly to in small clannish towns. They could be spies and were always suspect. Sooooo....
The way to put a stranger in his place was to humiliate them sexually, and send the warning that they had best have no ill intentions in the town. In that culture, the most horrific way to humiliate a stranger and have power over him was to mistreat him as one might mistreat a woman with symbolic or literal rape. The rape would not be a homosexual act, it would be a warning and a putting of strange man in his place as a warning. "In our town, you are just a woman to be used as needed and disposed of if necessary" It may only have been a threat to humiliate and control as the original request was for them to come out "that we might know them".


There are two schools of thought on "know them". One is sexual and one is to simply interrogate and get to know. Few ever question Lot's evil counteroffer. But it does show that Lot was a product of his culture and personal ego protection. Eastern hospitality issues were at stake here and not homosexuality. 
Lot being called a "Hero of Faith" and "Just Lot" in Hebrews 11 certainly did not have this disgusting behavior of in mind. Actually I'm still not sure why lot made the Hebrews 11 list. 
EVERY sermon I ever heard on the topic stops short of explaining Lot's egregious behavior as a father. I doubt this ever really literally happened, but if it did, Lot would be no hero of mine. I seriously doubt he had much of a relationship with the girls after this stunt, not to mention Mrs. Lot!  Can you imagine dinner that night?  "Ummmm, so Lot...about your offer of our daughters to the townsfolk..."
I imagine a similar conversation between Sarah and Abraham when she found out dad's little camping trip to the mountains 
Concerning the superiority of men over women....
I have always found it amusing to inform fundamentalist males who literally believe that "women come from men and not men from women" as Paul ignorantly noted, that the human fetus starts out female. While the genetics to be male or female is there, the initial stages of conception put the fetus clearly in the female camp. It is only after the fetus is bathed in the chemistry of testosterone after the fourth to sixth week does it literally start it trip toward maleness. Without that chemical miracle and it can be interrupted by many factors, including stress in the mother at the time, and the male born can be highly feminized in both thinking and body. We all know men who act very feminine who in fact are not homosexual but are oft accused of it. This would reflect such a deficiency in the womb. It's a big topic medically, environmentally and socially and I do not mean to address them in any detail. The information is out there.  
Perhaps men should ask themselves just why they seem to have nipples?  It's because the template is female.
There seems to be a logical explanation about why women have nipples: to feed babies. But why do men's bodies retain what appears to be redundant body parts? The Darwinian natural selection process would seem to dictate that male nipples really should not be there. So what's the deal? Why do men have nipples? 
Why Men Have Nipples 
As embryos in the womb, males and females have similar tissues and body parts.
In fact, all embryos start out as female, which is why nipples are present in both sexes. It is the effect of the genes, the Y chromosome and the hormone testosterone that brings about the masculine changes to the embryo, including the growth of the penis and testicles. However, because the nipples have already developed before the sex of the baby is determined, the nipples stay.​
As such, male nipples and breast tissue have no function except for perhaps protecting the heart and lungs from injury.


I know many gay men and women , and there is not one that I could see being anything but who they are. I have asked each one when they knew their leanings sexually and in their identity and it is ALWAYS between 8 and 12 years old. They then, spend the next twenty years having it prayed out, Bibled out, preached out and counseled out with massive doses of fear, shame and guilt and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. . At about age 30, they tend to finally give up and admit, "I seem to be what I am." And accept themselves even if others don't. 
One gay friend and their partner of 20 years recently met a pregnant teen who was going to abort her child and long story short, they paid for the birth, attended it and adopted the little girl as their own. At the infant baptism ceremony she was taken to by the one of the partners, a member "outed" them to the new Pastor (the old one was more don't ask don't tell), and the next day the Pastor gave them a video to reform them. They were not not interested in reform. To a gay person becoming heterosexual on command would be the same as a heterosexual becoming gay on command. The next day they were disfellowshipped from a life long church affiliation by the new pastor. So, you be the judge. A gay couple saves a nearly aborted child, raises her like a princess and gets bounced from their church after 30 years.  Who was unjust in this situation?  The Pastor and the Church was. 
What's the point here? I think, leave people alone. No one can live the life of another. Thought control and obedience to organizations and leadership, to me, is suspect and not a path that serves the individual in the long run. I don't trust the understanding of such issues to Bronze Age Priests who knew nothing of what we know today about what makes up a human being.  
Some theologians make a good case that Paul, who did what should not do and did not do what he thought he should, struggled with his own sexuality issues.  Romans 1 is more of a rant and a bit protesting too much.  Romans seems to say that homosexuality in men and women is really the punishment God allows , or gives them over to, for worshiping the creature more than the creator and denying God , who any sane person can see exists by the wonders of the natural world. 
Romans 1: 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."
Paul in this authentic writing of his goes over the top in his views of why people act as they do and don't just worship the Hebrew God as Paul defines Him.  He may also be revealing his own fears of the consequences of his own issues if he "does what he should not do and does not do what he should." 
Here is  man who insists, contrary to Jesus teachings about leaving father and mother and clinging to a wife, that being single as himself was best. Here is a man who thinks the only reason to marry is to avoid fornication.  Here is a man who felt he had to beat himself literally to keep himself in line , "lest after preaching to others, I myself should become a castaway." Here is a man who had a reputation of having a big mouth and spoke big words but was very weak and unattractive in his real presence.. Whatever Paul struggled when he lamented his weakness in knowing he should not do what he seems to easily find himself doing, he could not bring himself to be specific about just what that problem might be.  Perhaps his thorn in the flesh was not merely weak eyes, but something deeper and after begging God "three times" for it to leave him, he simple accepted whatever it was and kept moving. Being "gay" in that culture might mean not practicing it out of fear of the cultural penalties, but one would still quietly struggle with their inexplicable tendencies. Paul said he did not understand this terrible burden in himself and I expect he was right.
I would at least recommend to Church of God ministers that they understand the story of Sodom is not about an entire town of gay men and boys wanting to play around with strangers.  I'd also encourage them that if they are going to use the tale to make some point, they read the entire story to its completion and comment on just how Lot makes it into Hebrews 11 after going on record as a father who would offer his virgin daughters to a crowd of gay men and boys to do with what they wish. I also doubt a townful of gay men and boys would want the girls to begin with.   It might also be a good time to address the equality of men and women n reality, and not the superiority of men because , "the woman sinned and not the man."
A topic for another time.....

Church of God False Prophet Turn's Orlando Slaughter Into Story All About Himself And Persecution

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Nearly Arrested Elish Elijah Amos Thiel is using the tragedy in Orlando as a warning that his church will soon be persecuted.  How he arrives at that silliness is because he is upset that several Facebook pages and Twitter accounts have been shut down over the last few days because of their content, in regards to Orlando and Muslims.

Amos Thiel feels that he too will be persecuted for speaking boldly about all kinds of topics in the very near future.

Facebook Censors Pamela Geller
Here are some of Facebook’s policies from its Community Standard’s pages:
We remove content, disable accounts, and work with law enforcement when we believe there is a genuine risk of physical harm or direct threats to public safety. …
People use Facebook to share their experiences and to raise awareness about issues that are important to them. This means that you may encounter opinions that are different from yours, which we believe can lead to important conversations about difficult topics. To help balance the needs, safety, and interests of a diverse community, however, we may remove certain kinds of sensitive content or limit the audience that sees it. 
While the above may seem reasonable to many, the reality is that internet censorship is a real threat as how the above is interpreted can lead to inappropriate censorship. Can you see how telling the truth about other religions and even proclaiming the solution to the world’s problems is the Kingdom of God could be a ‘violation’ of Facebook’s ‘community standards’? 
Well, we in the Continuing Church of God can. 
This censorship issue is so serious that we in the Continuing Church of God decided, because of a YouTube censorship incident last year (in which we ultimately won), to come up with an alternative to YouTube if we were faced with its censorship. 
The USA no longer has the type of ‘freedom of religion’ or ‘freedom of speech’ its founders envisioned. And while neither Facebook or YouTube are part of the government of the USA, they do not support the agenda or the morality of the Bible. 
The time will come when the USA, and likely some private companies, will apparently stop the efforts of websites like this one. As well as our numerous video channels on the internet.

UCG: It's Not A Salvation Issue

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Rumors have been swirling around for the last year and and a half that changes were coming to church doctrines in UCG. The UCG spin doctors immediately jumped into gear and said NOTHING was being changed.


Where have we all heard that before?  From these very same men who lied as WCG paid employees that nothing was being changed doctrinally. Some if them said that any changes that might be coming were "not salvation issues" and not to worry about it.  Well we all saw how that panned out!


While these very same men, now sitting in lofty positions in UCG, were denying changes, they knew things were going to change and immediately started plotting and scheming on how to continue their money stream once thy were out of jobs.


Now these men are sitting pretty in UCG, financially secure for the rest of their lives. So secure that they feel that reformations needs to come to UCG.  Theses were the very same men who supported the changes in WCG. Even though they jumped ship, many of theses men still hold on to the reformations that Tkach Sr. instituted in WCG.


The track record in the church is well established that when ever the leadership starts denying something they are either guilty of it or that have plans to do what they are accused of. Lying has never been an issue in the leadership of the Church of God.


When the troubles started recently in a Canadian UCG over changes happening, the members were told that these things were NOT salvation issues and that they should not worry about them.


To show how unconcerned theUCG  ministry is about members questioning them, the minister in Canada told the upset members to leave if they did not like the subtle changes.

We would never have heard a comment like that out of the ministry from the past. you were either told to be quiet or disfellowshipped.  Now they just don't care.


Part of the reason this pastor could care less is that he is only a year short of retirement. Why should he care if he loses members?  He is set for life.  The boys in Cincinnati have guaranteed that.


It’s going to be in interesting summer in UCG and the rest of the Churches of God.  Meredith and Flurry have had severe health issues, strokes, and are mentally deteriorating.  Stephen Flurry and Jimmy Meredith are heir apparent’s and intensely disliked by most.  Pack’s cult is ready implode.  LCG’s is almost guaranteed to rupture once Meredith dies.  Members refuse to follow Weston or Lil’Jimmy. 


How many more years will the Churches last as they lie their way to retirement?


Who needs those ethic committees anyway!







David Hulme Church Unable to Retain Members

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Remember the glory days when Worldwide Church of God congregations could have hundreds and hundreds of people in a congregation?  The church I get up in had 700+ members.  HQ congregations had 1,200+ in attendance each week with  neighboring churches with 200-300 members each. At it's peak over 5,000 church members were gathering in the Los Angeles area every Saturday.  Feast sites could have up to 15,000 people in attendance.  Bragging rights were certainly things to be proud of.

Contrast that to today in the the Churches of God.  All the churches struggle to get 1,200 in attendance from around the world! Most congregations are now 20-30 people.  Some, like Almost Arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Thiel, have hardly any members in the United States but a few hundred in Africa thus making it a global work in his eyes.

Then there is the Church of God an International Association.  David Hulme thought he was the next best thing after Herbert Armstrong and started his own church after wrecking havoc in United Church of God.  From the several thousand that went with him he has dwindled down to minuscule little gatherings of people.  His magazine has ceased publication, and now is online only, still as irrelevant an worthless as before.  No one read it in the print version, even though it was geared to the worldly heathen Sunday keepers and atheist pagans.

His church church attendance figures have come out recently and someone has compared them to COGIA figures from 2008.  It's not a pretty picture;

2008
“In some parts of the world you will find that there are a lot of people coming into the Church. You find quite a multiplying going on in Africa at the moment. You don’t find it very much in the UK, but it’s not true of everywhere in the UK. You don’t find it everywhere in the US... 
What has been happening in the Church? In the US and Canada we have 1150 people in regular attendance and we have 53 churches. If you do your maths, you realize that a lot of these churches are rather small...
At the Feast last year we had about 1300 people in attendance. Let’s go to other parts of the world. In Australia we have 68 people and six churches. In the Philippines we have 156 people and seven churches. In addition we have 11 members in six countries, remote areas all around Southeast Asia who are looked after by Australia. Last year we had 77 people at the Feast in Bright, in Australia, and 132 in Iloilo, in the Philippines.
In Africa we have an interesting situation. We have English and French speaking brethren there numbering 700! So they are a sizable portion of our total numbers. They are scattered through 38 congregations. A recent report I saw has congregations in places that even I was not aware we had people! So there are some small groups forming in countries where hitherto we have not had anybody.
In the UK we have about 300 people in 14 congregations. The Feast there is one of our larger ones, about 320 there last year. In Germany we have two congregations and 20 people. We have people of the German language background in Switzerland as well. We have France and Switzerland represented in the French language: 21 people in two congregations. In Scandinavia we have about 10 people, mostly in Denmark and Norway and Sweden, I believe.”
Now compare those numbers above to 2015

The numbers attending the 2015 Festival of Tabernacles were as follows: 
USA : Klamath Falls, Oregon 166; Lake Arrowhead, California 190; Springdale, Arkansas 190; Deep Creek Lake, Maryland - not stated. Total 700+.Total attendance almost halved - mostly accounted for by the loss of members to the Church of God, The Father’s Call, in January 2014. 
Australia : Bright - attendance not stated, but a significant number seem to have gone ‘walkabout’. There are only 12 people (none young) in the festival report photo, including several visitors from the USA. 
Philippines : Talisay 138. 
Africa : Accra, Ghana & Benin City, Nigeria - 70; Scottsburgh, South Africa 19; Gokwe, Zimbabwe 77; Harare, Zimbabwe 111; Cotonou, Benin 123; Busa, Cameroon 45. Total 445. 
Philippines : Talisay 138. 
Africa : Accra, Ghana & Benin City, Nigeria - 70; Scottsburgh, South Africa 19; Gokwe, Zimbabwe 77; Harare, Zimbabwe 111; Cotonou, Benin 123; Busa, Cameroon 45. Total 445. 
The substantial fall in numbers is probably due to a discontinuation of support in some areas - no festival site in East Africa for example. 
Europe : Llandudno, Wales, 260 from 12 countries; Les Rousses, France, over 60 from 10 countries. Total 320+ 
Since John Meakin and some members left to join LCG, a month before Tabernacles 2008, the UK has remained loyal to David Hulme. Perhaps there was no French festival site in 2008, which would account for the drop in the UK. 
Total 2015 festival attendance : 1600-1650.Total 2008 church attendance : 2400-2450.  (From Church of God News)
The people still presume they are doing a work even though they are irrelevant in numbers.  Part of the reason behind that is the myth that Herbert pushed continually upon the church.  "God's true church has always been small in numbers." Little church, mighty work.  That's the same myth Dave Pack uses to this day, though his numbers are readily declining too.

Perhaps Dave Pack and Dave Hulme can join ranks and celebrate the Feast together this year.  Since the of thousands of other COG members still have not joined up with Dave Pack, he might be overly excited to get a couple hundred from Hulme.

The work is dead.  None of the groups are doing anything worthwhile.  The only thing every single one of these groups has in common is the ability to keep putting money in the leader's pockets.






LCG's Super Mario

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From my favorite LCG source:

He's an extremely virile man who likes to flirt with the single ladies at church. The sermon is actually about a literal marriage we have with Jesus - from courtship to consummation.


Mario Hernandez from Living Church of God Lists Requirements To Make It Into Petra

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Originally posted December 2014

This has to be one of the most pathetic videos I have seen the Living Church of God put online in ages.  Hernandez had a long legacy in Pasadena as a self-righteous, condescending, and abusive man.  Many Spanish COG members suffered at the hands of this man and now he is back to lecture us all on what his god requires in order to make it to the "place of safety." That's going to be a rough trip for Hernandez and the LCG when they arrive and see Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry and Dave Pack in charge.

Persecution is coming.  Germany has risen from the ashes, Herbert was right. The devil is rampaging. War is a raging in heaven.

I have a feeling that Bob Thiel was trained at the feet of Hernandez because they both produce the most boring and intellectually bankrupt videos imaginable!

Church of God False Teacher Claims Women Can Only Sing In Church and NOT Preach

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The Church of God's newest self-appointed false prophet was not particularly happy when The Journal recently had a series of articles on women preaching. The die-hard legalists just cannot get past the idea that only THIER opinions and interpretations are valid.

Almost Arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Thiel lashes out at Tina Engelbart and her interpretation of the Greek words for women preaching.  The most important thing for COG leaders like Thiel, Flurry, Pack and Kubik is that the patriarchy must always reign supreme.

For a woman to preach in church seems to be the most disgusting thing ever to happen.  The only thing women are allowed to do is nurse babies, change diapers and sing.  Women may sing all they want, as long as they don't preach while singing.
First, while Tina Engelbart is entitled to her opinion about what she thinks the Greek means, the reality is that there is no record of Christian women preaching in either the New Testament nor in early Christian writings. While it is possible that the apostate Simon Magus may have had a female preach, and maybe did some other apostates, people who understood koine Greek at the time apparently did not feel that the Apostle Paul was allowing women to preach. 
Second, UCG is correct that women should not be preaching. This is confirmed by the following passage that is in the Bible (hence, even allowing for a different translation of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, this is not something only to be derived from the Talmud as Tina Engelbart indicates): 
11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. (1 Timothy 2:11-12). 
Third, as far as the Talmud goes, Tina Engelbart needs to consider that the Jews DID allow women to sing and hence the prohibition they had related to women speaking before the assembly did not include singing. That is the same in the Christian church as well.

PCG Lays Down the Law on Congregational Hymns

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From a PCG source:



In the PCG a new policy has been implemented which has changed the way hymns are sung during Sabbath services.


As many PCG congregations are small and typically don’t have piano players, during Sabbath services hymns were sung accompanied by pre-recorded piano-only versions of the WCG hymnal, either in MP3 or CD format.  Effectively this practice gave small congregations something to sing along to, and although not ideal, it was a fairly effective way for small groups to be able to participate and contribute meaningfully during their Sabbath services.  Whether or not you like the COG hymnal, this arrangement meant local groups could have their own song service.  Song leaders could lead the members and the people singing could hear their own voices.   In other words, each Sabbath there could be some semblance of a song service even in a small group of only a few people.



For some inexplicable reason this situation was recently deemed unsuitable by PCG musical director Ryan Malone, who set about re-recording the entire WCG hymnal using a full-blown choir.  These recording were then sent to all congregations worldwide with strict instructions for them to be used in place of the piano-only versions.


For those who don’t know Ryan Malone is the individual who has singlehandedly taken over, and together with his wife Paula, come to dominate every aspect of music in the PCG.  Whether it’s the spectacular failure of Ryan’s embarrassing church-financed musicals, his tedious and repetitious compositions, or his and his wife’s ubiquitous presence in the musical life of the church, everything and anything musical in the PCG has to be controlled, sanctioned and dominated by him.


The sad irony here is that the man who supposedly is the PCG’s musical director, ostensibly an individual tasked with the development and growth of music in the church has allowed his obsessive control over all things musical get to the point where he has now destroyed the member’s sole opportunity to contribute musically and handed it over to and a handful of pre-recorded PCG HQ elites, featuring of course the stupefying voice of his wife Paula. 


A very poor aspect of these choir recordings is that at the end of each verse the singers sustain the notes far too long which effects the timing into the next verse and makes them even more difficult to sing along to.  However, the worst aspect of all is that although the recordings are of a full male-female choir, each song is mixed in such a way that Paula Malone’s voice literally stands out and dominates over all the others.  If you have heard Paula Malone sing you will know why this is bad.


So now not only do PCG field members have to witness the exclusivity and self-indulgence of headquarters from afar, due to this musical micromanagement they are now no longer able to even participate meaningfully in their own song services.


What this all means is that each weekend a handful of ageing PCG members have to stand hymnals in hand and be drowned out by what sounds like a mutation of the Stepford Wives and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.


A sad spectacle indeed…



EXCLUSIVE: Former Church of God Member Kills Acquaintance Then Is Shot and Killed By Police

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Edward Acquisto (today)


Another disturbed Church of God member goes on a rampage and kills another man in a cemetery and then is shot and killed by the police.

Edward Acquisto, a member from the Providence, Rhode Island congregations, shot and killed John Cloud a member from the Boston congregation. Whether or not these two men were still in COG congregations to this date is unknown, at least from the source that sent me this information.  He was apparently part of the congregation in 1995 after getting out of prison.


This is not Acquisto's first brush with the law:

This is the third violent death tied to Acquisto, who had received a life sentence in the 1979 rape of an ex-girlfriend in her Woonsocket apartment.
In 1978, Acquisto beat to death John Teja, a bartender in Woonsocket. He was sentenced to serve 10 years concurrent to the life sentence in the rape case.
In 1977, Acquisto was charged with attempted murder after Donald H. Shepherd was found unconscious in a pool of blood in Woonsocket. Charges were dismissed for lack of a speedy trial. After 12 years in a coma, Shepherd died of his injuries.
The Rhode Island parole board refused to release Acquisto more than a half dozen times, noting often the seriousness of the crime and parole guidelines for lifers. But in 1995 the board released him to electronic monitoring.
At least twice he had his parole revoked, once for drinking and a second time, in 1998, for shoplifting. He served an additional five years before he was released in May 2003. Acquisto had heart surgery while in prison.
Rhode Island man, 80, kills 81-year-old man in cemetery before he is gunned down by cops following car chase
See another story here: 

(late 1980's)
TIVERTON, R.I. – An 81-year-old Kingston, Mass., man was shot to death in a Rhode Island cemetery Monday night by an 80-year-old man who died an hour later in a shootout with police. 
Police said John Cloud, 81, was shot and killed in the Pocasset Hill Cemetery in Tiverton, R.I., by Edward Acquisto, 80, of Tiverton. Fall River and Tiverton police officers fatally shot Acquisto after he fired at them, police said.
Police said Acquisto and Cloud met at about 6:30 p.m. in the cemetery, where Acquisto had been seen reading a Bible in the past.   81-year-old Kingston man shot to death at R.I. cemetery

New York Daily News

Authorities say 80-year-old Edward Acquisto of Tiverton shot and killed 81-year-old John Cloud of Kingston, Massachusetts, at the Pocasset Hill Cemetery in Tiverton about 6:50 p.m. Monday. 
People who were in the cemetery at the time called 911. 
"They were visiting loved ones' grave sites and heard the commotion, heard the gunshots and called police via 911 calls," said Chief Thomas Blakey of the Tiverton Police Department. 
While a motive for the killing is still unclear, police said it was a prearranged meeting between Acquisto and Cloud. 
Tiverton man shot by police served time for manslaughter, sex assault
 



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Eric's Life in the Worldwide Church of God and His Journey Out


Rod Meredith's Latest Co-worker Letter: "Your family, your children and your job will be blessed" if you support Meredith's enterprise.

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From an LCG source:



Here's Rod Meredith's latest nauseating co-worker letter. On a positive note, it's not as money grubbing as usual. Maybe all the flack he received on Banned for being such a greedy beggar hypocrite who lives in a huge house and has a fat bank account made an impact?! One can only hope.

I especially liked the line about how British Israelism is thoroughly explained with "Biblical and historical proof" in their U.S and Britain booklet. Dr Winnail, Dr. Fall,  and Dr. Germano among MANY  other COG ministers and members are smart enough to know that B.I. has been totally disproven but ol' Spanky decides to double down in this latest letter. Do you think Rod Meredith has even heard of DNA? His ignorance is astounding.

Then Meredith goes on in his delusions to say that the Living Church of God is the "only one Work, one group of dedicated human beings - who are preaching the true message of Christ's coming Government".  Well I guess that can lay to rest the rumors that LCG is attempting to form a merger with COGWA  or UCG. 

RCM used to say the other splinters were also COG's but that LCG was "the spear head". Now, apparently, LCG is the ONLY COG. Funny how things change when you are hemorrhaging members and trying to scare those who remain out of defecting to those other Laodicean churches. 

Perhaps the scariest line in the letter is, "will He not render to each man according to his deeds". If I were RCM that would definitely keep me up at night. I wonder what compulsive lying, meanness, vanity, greed and corruption renders?

Fear, lies and manipulation are the chief operandi at LCG. Will they ever understand the message of love that Christ left for us?

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June 16, 2016
Dear Brethren and Co-Workers with Christ,
We should never forget the recent headlines: “MASSACRE—Orlando Mass Shooting Deadliest in U.S. History.” “Shooter pledged allegiance to ISIL.” “ORLANDO—The heavily armed assailant who killed 50 people in a packed nightclub early Sunday in the deadliest shooting spree in U.S. history pledged allegiance to the Islamic State before he was killed in a hail of gunfire, authorities said” (USA Today, June 13, 2016).
Dear friends we understand the details of what happened, but the big question which very few are able to understand is why these attacks are taking place with increasing frequency in America, Canada, Britain, France, etc. The Wall Street Journal reported: “As we learned again after December’s murders in San Bernardino, ISIS propaganda over the internet can all too easily reach Muslims alienated from American society. Young men who are second generation immigrants seem to be especially vulnerable to calls for jihad…. President Obama could also help if he weren’t so reluctant to acknowledge the domestic danger from ISIS. Mr. Obama did say in his Sunday remarks that this was ‘an act of terror,’ though he still can’t muster the words Islam or jihad or Islamic State. The truest words he uttered were that Orlando ‘could have been any one of our communities’” (June 13, 2016).
It is important to understand that both our national and religious leaders seem to have no real understanding of how to deal with radical Islam. They do not understand who we are and what is definitely prophesied to occur in the near future.
While Meredith did not go into one or his nauseating homophobic rants he has to get his dig in anyway claiming the innocents slaughtered were "godless and Christ denying." I have seen more Christ denying men in LCG and the COG than than there were in that club that night.
My friends, this “Orlando massacre” was not just some occasional incident. It was undoubtedly part of the beginning of an entire series of such terrorist acts and other tragedies that are going to overwhelm our society in the next few years in a way we have never seen before! Why? The answer is that our leaders fail to acknowledge the fact that there is a real God. They refuse to even consider that He may be intervening and guiding world events—including at least allowing these kinds of tragedies to occur and to come down on a godless and Christ-denying people who virtually spit in His face!



Then he brings in the discredited belief that British Israelism is a valid belief just because John Ogwyn wrote LCG's booklet on the topic.
I hope that all of you will carefully read and study one of the most meaningful and powerful booklets we have ever published. It was written by one of the most dedicated men I have ever known, John H. Ogwyn. It is entitled, The United States and Great Britain in Prophecy. It thoroughly explains—with biblical and historical proof—the fact that the American and British-descended peoples were, originally, primarily the descendants of Jacob—whose name was changed to Israel. It shows that we—through our ancestry—were promised awesome national blessings and power. “Also God said to him: ‘I am God Almighty. Be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall proceed from you, and kings shall come from your body. The land which I gave Abraham and Isaac I give to you; and to your descendants after you I give this land’” (Genesis 35:11-12).
So our ancestor, Jacob—whose name was changed to “Israel”—was to be the father of an entire “company” of nations—this certainly was fulfilled in the “commonwealth of nations” which Britain had and in the great single nation, the United States, which was also indicated in verse 11. 
Meredith shouldn't be lecturing alone about "spitting" in god's face.  He does that daily when he denies Jesus. 
Great national blessings were promised to come upon us because of the example of heartfelt obedience of our father, Abraham. Yet Almighty God does not continue to bless those who deny His existence—who virtually “spit in His face”—and completely turn away from obedience to His laws and His statutes!
In His inspired Word, God tells us in Deuteronomy 28 that He would bless and bless our peoples if we would continue to obey His commandments—He would set us “high above all nations of the earth” (Deuteronomy 28:1). God said to our people, “The Lord will open to you His good treasure, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow. And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail; you shall be above only, and not be beneath, if you heed the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you today, and are careful to observe them” (vv. 12-13).
Dear brethren and friends, it is obvious—according to the inspired Word of God—our people will continue to receive horrifying punishments from God of almost every description. If we do not turn to the true God of the Bible in heartfelt repentance we will have worsening drought, fires, flooding, famine, massive earthquakes and some of the most horrifying disease epidemics ever to hit mankind—all of these unless we repent and begin to turn to God as a nation and as a people. Some of you will object and say, “But I think….”
Meredith's god is on the warpath and spanking out divine punishment 
Please understand. It does not make any difference what “I think” or what you think. If you have the intelligence and the courage to dig into the facts and prove to yourself that there is a real God, that the Bible is His inspired revelation to mankind, and if you can muster up the humility to obey your Creator, you will then truly understand what God says and what is already beginning to happen, right now, even as I write! For this recent tragedy in Orlando is not just an isolated incident. It is no doubt the beginning of an entire series of national tragedies as part of the divine punishment meted out by Almighty God the Creator. If we are willing to understand it in this context, it should drive all of us to our knees! It should make us realize that the specific promises God gave to our ancestors have come about. And now the national punishments prophesied in His Word are also beginning to occur—more and more with each passing year. The end of this society is not going to be tomorrow or this year. We are not saying that. Rather, we are saying that we are truly living in the “time of the end” and that God is going to continue to intervene with increasing power to show that He is God! We need to prove that to ourselves and begin to act accordingly.
Meredith makes it known that there is no "truth" outside the LCG.  No other COG is doing the work. Flurry is not, Pack is not. Kubik is not, Frank's is not...
At this point in modern history, there is only one Work, one group of dedicated human beings—who are preaching the true message of Christ’s coming Government to this earth with increasing power, who truly do understand the details of Bible prophecy, and who are willing to do what God says in every area of our lives. The Living Church of God is sponsoring that very Work!
Then Meredith claims that the work of LCG has never been bolder nor bigger.  The entire world is hearing the message of the LCG.
Each month, this Work increases with power in our impact on the entire world. Right now, we are having a tremendous increase in our impact through many aspects of the Internet. We are very grateful for this—and grateful for so many of you who are helping us out as members and co-workers in the Body of Christ. I am grateful that so many people are responding to our powerful new Internet initiatives, such as the telecast on Roku. But I also appreciate that for many long-time supporters of this Work, plain old postal “snail mail” still has its place. Most of you brethren and co-workers already have your own copy of our powerful and inspiring DVD, Feed My Sheep, which we sent out several years ago, featuring insightful comments by many Living Church of God ministers revealing their hearts about the Work being done around the world. A couple of months ago, we sent a special offer to more than 46,000 U.S. subscribers who did not already have that DVD, and more than one-in-six responded to request the free DVD! As any of you who work with “direct mail” will know, a response rate approaching 17 percent can be considered outstanding—especially for a DVD like this that focuses more on the spiritual impetus of the Work rather than the “flashy” details of end-time prophecy that some “religious hobbyists” like to hear. This response shows powerfully that so many of those being reached by this Work really do have their “hearts” in what Jesus Christ is doing through this Work!
Also, I hope and pray that thousands of you who have not yet read Mr. Ogwyn’s powerful booklet, The United States and Great Britain in Prophecy, will now want to write in, call in or order over the Internet to request this free booklet. As most of you know there will be no charge, and no follow-up for donations as a result of your requesting this booklet. It is very interesting. It is filled with information that will really help you understand what is beginning to occur all around you right now. So call or write today and request your free copy of this powerful and insightful booklet that every one of us ought to read and study to understand the events that are now beginning to occur in a massive way effecting the British-descended and American peoples. 
Meredith's god is a god who dishes out blessings only to LCG members who have their "heart" in the work.   Anyone who is not 100% behind Meredith will NOT be blessed.
Please remember—for your own good—Almighty God’s instruction in Proverbs 24:11-12: “Deliver those who are drawn toward death, and hold back those stumbling to the slaughter. If you say, ‘Surely we did not know this,’ does not He who weighs the hearts consider it? He who keeps your soul, does He not know it? And will He not render to each man according to his deeds?” God certainly rewards those who have their hearts in His Work and in proclaiming the warning which we are trying to give about the events that are now beginning to come upon our peoples. We certainly need your help to “grow” this Work in power and effectiveness.
Almighty God also tells us: “For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also” (Matthew 6:21).
Apparently if you fully support Meredith and the LCG you will then be blessed beyond measure.  You, your children, and even your job!  Of course that means if you are blessed at your job then you will be getting more money which means you will be giving more to the church.
If you will join with us in “going all out,” in doing your part to help get this Work going and growing more than ever, God will certainly bless you—bless your family, your children, your job and everything you have. For He is God. God is “real.” As you learn to obey Him and serve Him, this reality will become more and more fixed in your mind and you will understand and you will have faith as you see God intervening. So put your “treasure” in the very Work that is preparing the way for Christ’s Second Coming as King of kings.
“Boy!” How we need His coming Government on this earth right now. Let us do everything we can to help prepare the way and have God’s blessing on our lives and our families as we walk with God and join with Him as “co-workers” and members in His Body in preparing the way for Christ’s Second Coming.
With Christian love,
Roderick C. Meredith
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BREAKING: Living Church of God Depositions To Start This Week In Scarborough Lawsuit

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Just in from LCG source:

Depositions were the hottest rumor on LCG streets this Sabbath. It seems that quite a few members and ministers have received subpoenas to be deposed  by the Scarborough's attorney in the next two weeks. I can't confirm exactly how many LCG members have received the call so far but based on the chatter this Sabbath, it's a lot. I was also told that it's not just people in the Charlotte congregation. I spoke to several women in the Charlotte LCG congregation who were either called themselves or who's husband's had been called for depositions later this week.

There are a range of emotions amongst LCG members. Some are angry that the Scarborough's are "dragging them into this mess". Some are angry that LCG won't "do the right thing". People talk in hushed voices so they don't get in trouble from the ever-present LCG spies. One person I spoke to bluntly stated that they were "glad to be given the opportunity to finally tell the truth" and seemed resigned to the fact that telling the truth might get them kicked out of church.

Mr. Ames likes to ask congregants for a show of hands during sermons so that he can come up with an estimated percentage. From my surveying since learning of this lawsuit, I would say that the majority in LCG sympathize with the Scarborough's and think they were treated unfairly/ slandered but those same people don't agree with filing a lawsuit to resolve the situation. I have thought about this myself many times. It's a difficult situation because I think I would want to defend myself against false accusations too but I'm not sure suing a brother is the right thing to do either. The best thing would have been for all parties involved to act like Christians and talk out their problems.

Knowing that such a large majority of brethren privately sympathize with the Scarborough's, it will be curious to see if they choose to tell the truth in the depositions (which will surely hang LCG) or if they will choose to lie to protect LCG. LCG feels like it's on the brink of destruction regardless of the outcome of this case but the case isn't helping. Among the LCG people that I have spoken to about this lawsuit almost ALL have a hard time understanding how Mr. Meredith could let the situation go this far; costing the church so much money and bad publicity. It seems the Scarborough's made repeated attempts to make peace prior to filing this suit but LCG has refused them (at least according to facebook posts I've seen - so take that for what it's worth). Everyone knows that Mr. Meredith and Mr. McNair are prideful men but it's hard for us to understand how they can allow their pride to cause so much damage to the church that so many people love.

There are more important things LCG could be doing with their time and our money. What a total disappointment.

PCG Drops Tens of Thousands of Dollars in Tithe Money and Over 6,000 Man Hours to Produce Song of Songs Sex Oratorio

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From a PCG source:

A recently posted Philadelphia Church of God news item describes the latest amateur musical presentation of the PCG under Ryan Malone. The brief three paragraph article accompanied by a ten-minute video describes how Ryan and company put together this latest "masterpiece".

Naturally in the article we learn that the plum roles were of course reserved for quintessential self-promoter Ryan and his wife Paula.  However we also learn the very telling fact that this performance took around 6,000 man-hours to produce!  That's right, 6,000 man-hours, roughly the equivalent of three full-time workers engaged over the course of a year.

Obviously many would have contributed their time freely behind the scenes, however it would be safe to assume that the final cost of this production would have literally run into the tens of thousands, if not much, much more.  All this to put together a musical essentially preformed and attended solely by the Edmond PCG elite and their families.

No doubt the man-hour figure was quoted to impress, but what it unwittingly reveals is the extent to which music has to all intents and purposes taken over in the PCG.  It also reveals how casually member's tithes and offerings are being spent, especially when it comes to music and dancing. This kind of activity should be for organisations with oodles of cash, not aging churches currently experiencing a 25% drop in income.


I wonder if Gerald Flurry ever thinks about what he is now doing with the church’s tithes and offerings in relation to what he originally wrote back in 1989 in Malachi's Message?

Page 123 “Will a Man Rob God?”
Here is a quote by David Hulme, from the Worldwide News, August 14, 1989: “The Ambassador Foundation, through the PRESENTATION OF A GRANT by Chairman Joseph W. Tkach, took a significant step forward in promoting international understanding here [London] July 18.  “Mr. Tkach established the foundation’s involvement in REBUILDING THE GLOBE THEATER, where many of William Shakespeare’s plays were first presented. 

“Far from being merely a performing arts facility, the new Globe Theater complex will include a cultural center and FACILITIES FOR LITERARY SCHOLARS TO STUDY SHAKESPEARE’S WORKS” (emphasis mine). 

WCG leaders say they can’t afford to print Mystery of the Ages, BUT THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY “LITERARY SCHOLARS TO STUDY SHAKESPEARE’S WORKS”?! The decision to help fund the Globe Theater was made shortly after it was decided the WCG couldn’t afford to continue THE MAJOR WORK OF GOD’S “ELIJAH”! God holds them accountable FOR SUCH TWISTED PRIORITIES!......I believe we can begin to get a feel for why God spews the Laodiceans out of His mouth with extreme disgust!"

How long are rank and file PCG members going to put up with this crap?  Clearly the leadership of the church have nothing but contempt for them.

2016 is shaping up to be an interesting year in terms of the PCG's long-term stability.


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Why Has Rod Meredith Refused To Admit He Made A Mistake?

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I never make mistakes.  
I thought I did once, but I was mistaken.




Living Church of God is reeling today at the number of ministers and members that were served subpoenas for upcoming testimony in the lawsuit that the Scarborough's brought against Rod Meredith and the church.  The number of those served papers is said to be around 250 people.  You can quickly see why LCG is in such a turmoil today.  That is a huge number of people that can spill the beans on the way the Living Church of God works.


Some are deeply offended that the Scarborough’s filed this suit.  “Church members are not supposed to sue church members”, is the claim being thrown around.  This is LCG's attempt to divert peoples thinking away from the actually abuse that Meredith and his ministers dumped on the Scarborough’s and members that Saturday during the sermon where he demonized the Scarborough’s.



One comment made here says this:
Matthew 18 says ...and if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. 
The Scarborough's took it to the church in the letter they sent all of us. But our leaders wouldn't yield and make peace. So the Bible now gives them permission to treat Mr. Meredith and Mr. McNair as heathens.
It's that simple. LCG leadership had a year to behave as the Christians they claim to be but instead of "manning-up" they continued in their lie. Instead of showing the love and mercy of Christ, they decided remain stubborn and prideful carnal, ungodly men.
 I have never been so disappointed.

Living Church of God is now paying the price for the bullheadedness and arrogance that permeates the upper levels of the LCG hierarchy.  Meredith, Ames, Weston and others have always felt that were unaccountable to the membership and could say anything they wanted. That has come back to bite them big time.  Apparently the public marking of the Scarborough’s was particular vicious and extended.
I was at church the day the Scarborough's were marked. It was the most vicious attack I have ever been witness to. The entire day was focused on defaming these people.

I'm sure that is why they are deposing so many people.

250 people won't lie for LCG even if a few decide to.

Witness testimony plus an un-edited copy of services that day will be pretty damning to LCG's defense.

Add to that witnesses that testify to how the Scarborough's helped them over the years or showed generosity toward them to show that they were good people and it seems like a no-brainer (and I'm not a lawyer).
The question many are asking is how many of the deposed will actually lie in order to keep Meredith and the church in a good light.  If the LCG hierarchy is counting on a large swath of members defending them, they are going to be in for a shock.   By constantly spreading around the myth that convert church members would never sue other members, they are counting on people never delving into the topic.  Plus, when the ministry says it is a sin to go against the leader it instills another level of fear into the members minds.  


Rod Meredith teaches that Jesus Christ is the Head of the church, and since Jesus hasn't removed Meredith, He must approve of what Meredith is doing. Therefore, to go against Meredith is rebellion against Jesus Himself. This makes the leader infallible! Any man could say this, could he not? Meredith is very good at manipulating people into following him. Without that manipulation, propaganda, and brainwashing, I wonder just how small his following would be.
Throughout all of this the arrogance of the ministry has been at play here as one writer here wrote:
LCG ministry absolutely believe they are above being corrected. I know this first hand. I was once smugly asked by a minister in LCG if it was my job to correct the ministry. In their minds they are too right to ever be wrong.
When Meredith was sued the last time he was represented by the Worldwide Church of God with unlimited funds and a large team of lawyers.  All he had to do is sit there and let the church pay for everything, though while this was going he was plotting with others to form a church he could run after he left WCG. He had no problem in letting the church spend their money to defend him while he was setting himself up to take millions in tithe money.  Ethics have never been a strong point for Meredith. 


Now he will let his own church defend him with a large stable of lawyers at his beckon call. Millions will be spent in tithe money but he doesn't care.  His arrogance reigns supreme and is more important that admitting he made a mistake. Ethic's be damned.





Lying false prophet claims his members will soon be killed for beliefs.

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Big bad meanie Catholic's are just itching to slaughter 
Continuing Church of God members.



The FINAL phase of the work is here!  Only one church on the face of the planet is doing the "work".  Dave Pack has proven not to be.  Gerald Flurry is not.  Big Daddy Rod Meredith most assuredly is not.  Only the mind-boggling globe encompassing work of Almost Arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Thiel is doing the true work today.  Even those old boys in Cincinnati can do nothing to compare to the work of Thiel. Thiel's church is SUPER-superfantabulous!

His work is so important that he and his members will soon be slaughtered for what he is preaching.  Amos Thiel is copying the histrionics of Meredith when it comes to the subject ecumenicalism.  Those big bad meanie Catholics are just itching to slaughter Theil's members.  Gavin has a great post on the silliness of this belief in Armstrongism,  If you're looking for a harlot, LCG, try a mirror
It should be clear to those who truly understand the warnings in the Bible that the final phase of the work for God’s people will also specifically involve dealing with the ecumenical religion that will rise up (cf. Daniel 11:36-38; Revelation 13:4,8; 14:8-13; Matthew 24:14-15) with signs and lying wonders (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12) fulfilling Satan’s plan, while enduring the Beast power who will take steps to eliminate the faithful (Revelation 13:7,13-17; 14:12-13; Daniel 7:21,25). 
Being killed as the result of persecution is seemingly also part of the final phase of the work that some of God’s people will endure: 
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. 13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.” (Revelation 14:12-13; cf. 6:11) 
Even though other parts of the Book of Revelation show that persecution will come from a combination of church and state (i.e. 13:1-8), various verses (i.e. 12:13-17) show that it is truly Satan that is behind the persecutions. The old Radio Church of God taught this about Revelation 12:13:
Amos Thiel also has to get in another dig at Rod Meredith.  Thiel feels that his knowledge is far superior that anything Rod Meredith can ever dream up.  Thiel believes himself to be Meredith's teacher.  

After explaining all of his revealed truth to Daddy Rod, Thiel was shocked to see Daddy Meredith stab him the back and ignore everything he said.  The bitterness still eats away at Thiel.  Nothing destroys a megalomaniac more than being ignored and rejection by an idolized parent.
About a decade ago, evangelist R.C. Meredith and I were talking and he agreed with various points I was raising about the end time work. And back then, I was able to help lead him to essentially state that in the end it would not mainly be the message of the COG vs. the Protestants, but it would be the COG basically vs. the ecumenical religion that will rise up in the end that will likely (for a while) refer to itself as “Catholic.” In 2005, during the Feast of Tabernacles in Clearwater Beach, after a private lunch, we and our wives met at his hotel room and I also discussed various aspects of the final phase of the work with him–and I had other meetings, discussions, and emails related to that with the other Charlotte evangelists through December 14, 2012. Yet, even though he and others in his church agreed to take many steps related to the final phase of the work, few, if any, of the promised steps were taken by his group–this is a major part of why the Continuing Church of God needed to form. 
Thiel continues bragging that his "work" is the fastest growing work since its formation. No other Church of God is growing as fast as his group.  Even Dave Pack trembles at the mere mention of Amos Thiel's name.  Thiel takes great delight in knowing that the Living Church of God faces one struggle after another now. Ever since Meredith stabbed Theil in the back God has removed his blessings from the Living Church of God
Interestingly, in December 2015, Dr. Meredith lamented the slow growth in his church.  He said that 30% should be attained, but he hoped for at last 15% growth per year–something his church does not attain.  Consider that the Continuing Church of God has been the fastest growing COG since its formation in late 2012. It has exceeded the 30% growth in both membership and income in each of the years since it formed that the late Herbert W. Armstrong often pointed to as a proof of a blessing from God. While our growth rate will fluctuate, the Continuing Church of God is the only one of the ten largest COGs whose leaders had origins in the old Worldwide Church of God to do so. And we are on track for this growth in 2016 as well. 
Then he makes a claim that Meredith was scared that Thiel would say things that would cause the church persecution.  
A bolder, yet truthful, willingness to “name names” and call out what is happening will need to happen than the official COG groups formed between 1986 and 2011 have done–and this would seem to have to be led by the Continuing Church of God. (I have emails from one or more LCG evangelists where they objected to doing parts of this themselves, as well as notes from a meeting where they told me, and one was Dr. Meredith, that they were afraid that I was could become too bold and that they did not want to take bold proclamation steps that could trigger the persecution that they teach is biblically prophesied.) 
Now that Dave Pack has been utterly humialted at the failure of ten's of thousands of COG members and formers members joining his church over the last three years, Bitter Bob now takes that mantle on.  Pack's failure will be Thiel's triumph.  Thiel thinks his church will soon grow large and swell the ranks of the COG.  The end cannot come till Thiel accomplishes these things.


It is possible that this short work will temporarily swell the ranks of the Church of God (including some Philadelphians, but perhaps with many Laodiceans and many others not truly faithful—many may well fall away—though some of the first will be last and the last first, cf. Mark 10:31). Some will be faithful and bear fruit, while many others may leave (cf. Matthew 13:18 -23; 2 Thessalonians 2:3) once the persecuting tribulation that seems prophesied to occur prior to the Great Tribulation hits (cf. Matthew 24:9-10;21). Then the end will come.
It's not going to be long till the world news media will be camped out in Arroyo Grande in front of his office covering the teachings he has been doubly anointed to preach.  One or more of the Two Witnesses will emerge from Thiel's church.  This will cause the media to swarm to Thiel's offices.  Then he will be ridiculed.  Well at least he has written one truthful thing in his article today!  That ridicule happens daily.
Partially because the message of the COG, the people of the holy covenant, will enrage the upcoming prince/king of the North (Daniel 11:28-30). One or more associated with the Continuing Church of Godwill be identifying that the European “prince” (Daniel 9:26-27) who is rising up to become a king, will not be able to truly bring peace, but instead about bring war and will be in league with the final Antichrist. This will likely trigger major media coverage. Scrutiny of real, as well as claimed, COG literature will likely happen and various aspects of real and incorrect COG doctrines will likely be ridiculed.
There is much, much, more silliness here:  The final phase of the work continues  

 

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